Heather explores Miki Kashtan's template for the nonviolent use of force. Chris raises questions. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ about Chris and Heather.

Show notes:

Nonviolent Global Liberation Community

Is Nonviolent Use of Force an Oxymoron?

Heather raises the question. Chris explores the definitions. We are left with questions around who perpetuates the most violence and is it "working". ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ about Chris and Heather.

Show notes:

https://www.conspirituality.net/ (Conspirituality podcast)
https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745349770/they-will-beat-the-memory-out-of-us/ (Gelderloos book)
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2WNZzfInK5iTXdzSRT7v2L?si=tmUHI3bPTzeThqYciI5DAg (our episode: Do Human Rights Matter?)

Heather summarises what is going on in the UK around Palestine Action and how "terrorism" looks from her point of view, including describing what it was like to be living in NYC during 9/11. Chris responds and widens the discussion around theory of change. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ about Chris and Heather.

Show notes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Action

https://palestineaction.org/brize-norton/

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2/proscribed-terrorist-groups-or-organisations-accessible-version#proscription-offences

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g83l33wdeo