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Mike reunites with Glenn Ostlund of Infants on Thrones to kick off a new series on the Gene Keys. They dive into Glenn’s new book You’re Not Broken, Just Rewiring, explore Gene Key 51 (Agitation → Initiative → Awakening), and share raw stories of faith, separation, creativity, and transformation.

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Doug kicks things off with a story about finally using his Real Salt Lake season tickets and having what he calls the “time of his life.” A mid-season match against Club América turns into something more than just a game—it’s a full-body experience, complete with mariachi bands, yellow smoke, and a feeling of being transported. We talk about what it means to ride the wave of communal energy and how aliveness can show up in unexpected places.

That leads into a deeper conversation around boundaries and family, especially when it comes to missions, temple culture, and the pressure to “support” things that no longer align with us. We reflect on our own mission experiences, the lasting nervous system impact, and the complicated emotions that come with watching the next generation step into systems we’ve worked hard to leave.

We also touch on:

• The difference between real joy and performative belonging
• Why curiosity matters more than certainty
• How hard it can be to draw lines without feeling like you're abandoning people
• Some music updates—we’re almost done with Austin Nights and Holy Smokes is close behind

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In this episode, we cover everything from Trump’s compulsive lying and the Mormon Church’s complicity in capitalist power structures, to Bel-Air acid trips, murder kinks in scripture, and Jesus maybe being a little gayer than we were taught. We draw parallels between culty MAGA thinking and Mormonism, laugh about being perceived as “different than we imagined,” and land in the deep mystery of belief — how none of us knows what the hell is going on, and that’s kind of the point.

There’s also a closet recording setup, some time-traveling intimacy with our listeners, and a lot of “wtf even is hydrogen?”

As always, we don’t claim to know anything for sure, but we’re here dreaming with you. Maybe if we realize we’re dreaming this together… we can dream it better.

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Mike and Doug drop in after a bit of a break to catch up on life, psychedelics, healing, and everything in between.

Doug shares what came through during the solstice while recovering from surgery—some sun, some stillness, and a feeling that didn’t quite have a name. Mike talks about spending a Saturday alone, taking acid, deep-cleaning the house, and somehow stumbling into one of the best days he’s had in a long time.

They talk about:

• The mix of emotions that don’t fit into words
• Solo rituals, breathwork, and weirdly meaningful chores
• Values they’re trying to actually live by
• The tension between letting go and showing up
• He-Man, theology, and friendship power rankings

It finally happened. After five years of teasing it, Doug’s brother Adam joins the podcast—and it's everything we hoped for and more.

We dive deep into childhood hallucinations (or were they?), the mysterious and possibly imaginary Mitch Wrangler, and the shared false memory of eating rocks on the playground. Things get even weirder as we relive our first temple experiences—from sandwich board nudity and oily rubdowns to the surreal moment of receiving our secret new names (RIP Doug → Dan).

And yeah... we’re still trying to figure out what “loud laughter” even means.

Topics Include:

• Temple names and secret oaths
• Sibling memories and shared hallucinations
• The trauma and comedy of the endowment ceremony
• Missions, guilt, and sincerity
• Cold hot dogs + bologna + peanut butter
• Our very own Backstreet Boys moment in Vegas
• The forbidden story of the Testicle Festival
• Forgetting your name at the veil

Mike is joined again by Kelli Christine Case for a deep dive into life after Mormonism, the messiness of self-discovery, and reclaiming pleasure, power, and presence.

They explore:

• The grief and rebirth that comes from leaving Mormonism
• Codependence and control in Mormon structures (and how it shows up post-Mormon)
• Deconstructing dating, polyamory, and monogamy as evolving processes, not fixed identities
• Why emotional honesty is a superpower—and the freedom of saying “I don’t know”
• The importance of self-approval, shadow emotions (anger, disgust, hatred), and radical truth-telling
• The magnetic pull of embodied presence: dancing wild like it’s only you
• How creative expression becomes a path to reclamation

✨ Kelli Christine Case

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After a few weeks apart, Mike and Doug catch up on everything that's been stirring—internally and out in the world.

Mike returns from Portugal, where he wandered the streets of Lisbon, finding a party around every corner, and accidentally discovered he may be a bit of a unicorn. He shares what it’s like to travel alone for the first time, dance with couples across cultures, and say yes to a spontaneous 2:30 a.m. tattoo.

Doug returns from a California music festival, where he camped, candyflipped, and had a surprise run-in with a childhood hero. They talk about the contrast between drinking and psychedelics, how their relationship to substances is changing, and what it means to show up fully—on and off the dance floor.

The conversation touches on:

• Letting go of needing to “know who you are” and just following what feels alive
• The various graphs and axes of bisexuality
• What it means to be a social (and maybe sexual) lubricant
• The ache and joy of being open in midlife
• Creating a new word—pleasance—for the kind of presence that invites others in

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In this live episode, we dive into the hit film Sinners, exploring its themes of soul, art and the commercialization of creativity. Seth joins us midway and things heat up as we dissect the love-and-light vampires, the Dionysian river-dance rituals, and the seductive trap of eternal youth vs. embodied humanity.

Other themes we touch on:

• The tension between spirit and soul in the creative process
• Whether vampires represent capitalism, whitewashing, or the inner critic
• That one unforgettable scene where music collapses time and culture
• Personal stories about letting the vampires in (on stage, in Hollywood, in life)
• Can you make real art in the system—or must you sneak it through?

Warning: Spoilers galore for Sinners. If you haven’t seen it yet, pause, go watch, and then come back and dance with us.

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