Multi-platinum, GRAMMY-nominated Mary Lambert first captured hearts with Macklemore’s “Same Love.” Now, she’s back with her powerful new single “The Tempest” and a full album on the way.

Mary opens up about her lifelong journey of healing…from confronting shame and embracing self-compassion to living authentically. She reflects on the activism that shaped her career and the liberating act of producing her own music.

In this episode, she and Jess explore the intersectionality of mental health, body image, altruism, and creativity. They talk about staying grounded and intentional in a world that often demands performance over presence, the role of community and creativity in healing, and the power of giving yourself permission to feel it all.

If this conversation brings up heavy feelings, you are not alone: text HOME to 741741 (Crisis Text Line) or call RAINN at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) for confidential support.

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🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Debbii Dawson was born with music in her DNA... literally, her mother gave birth on tour (Debbii's parents were traveling musicians!)

This first-generation singer-songwriter has toured the globe alongside The Beaches, Orville Peck, and Role Model. A gifted lyricist, she finds songwriting inspiration from quiet observers like Emily Dickinson.

In this episode, Debbii opens up about growing up with music, navigating nerves + social anxiety, and finding joy in the small moments.

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Rachel Grae joins the podcast for a conversation close to home - literally... we both grew up in NJ with dads who love Springsteen.

In this episode, we get to know the girl behind the pop music as Rachel shares the quirks that keep her human... her caffeine obsession, doomscrolling, and a shopping addiction.

Ahead of her upcoming European tour and new album, she opens up about how songwriting serves as therapy, staying present during her Lollapalooza debut, and the impact of Julia Cameron's The Artist’s Way,

This one's a must-listen. It's raw, real, and refreshingly relatable, more or less.

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Fellow Jersey girl, Natalie Jane kicks off Season 7 of the pod ahead of her debut album, The World I Didn’t Want.

She opens up about choosing music over college, her love for art, and cultivating more female friendships. Natalie also shares her wellness routines, how she navigates self-doubt, and what it takes to stay authentic while building a career in pop music.

This conversation is equally lighthearted and vulnerable, inspiring listeners to create the world they do want.

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In this episode, Canadian singer-songwriter, Lauren Spencer Smith gets real about the emotional highs and lows behind her new album, The Art of Being a Mess.She opens up about navigating friendship breakups, staying grounded while living in LA, and why she’s choosing more sleep, less sugar, and a whole lot more intention.We also dive into online hate, setting boundaries with social media, and how her connection with fans keeps her going. Plus, Lauren shares why she’s passionate about giving back — including her work with Plus1 to support youth experiencing homelessness and addiction recovery.It’s a raw, refreshing convo about growth, self-love, and showing up as your full, messy, beautiful self.

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Grammy-winning artist Kevin Olusola of Pentatonix gets real about identity, creativity, and the heart behind his very first solo album, Dawn of a Misfit.

Known for blending classical music with modern storytelling, Kevin opens up about how his Nigerian and Grenadian heritage, fatherhood, and faith shaped the project — and the person he’s becoming.

We talk about the pressures of performance, navigating a solo career, and the ongoing work of aligning your art with your values. Kevin also shares lessons learned on about presence, parenting, and purpose.

If you’ve ever felt like a misfit — this episode is for you.

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Newly independent artist vaultboy joins us for a raw, honest conversation about going viral during the height of COVID, navigating mental health, and the emotional complexities of fame. 🎵🧠

We dive into the pressures of fan feedback, how therapy and exercise keep him grounded, and why songwriting remains his most therapeutic outlet. If you’ve ever struggled with self-judgment or online validation, this episode is for you.

TW: suicide - this episode has a brief mention of suicide. Please dial 988 or text 741-741 for support.

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Singer, songwriter, and producer Ella Vos joins More or Less to share the personal struggles that have shaped her music—from postpartum depression and cancer to divorce and the pressures of motherhood.

We dive into her breakout hit “White Noise,” the making of her new album Rosebuds, and how reconnecting with vulnerability became her superpower. Ella also talks about launching Super Glue Records to support emerging artists and build more sustainable paths in music.

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Credits:

🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez