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In this powerful conversation, host Kayla sits down with licensed therapist and author Katie K. May to discuss her book You're On Fire, It's Fine: Effective Strategies for Parenting Teens with Self-Destructive Behaviors. Katie shares practical, compassionate tools for parents navigating the challenges of raising emotionally intense ("fire feeler") teens—especially those with high-risk or self-destructive behaviors.

Drawing from her personal experiences, her own parenting journey, and her expertise as a DBT-specialized therapist, Katie offers mindset shifts, de-escalation techniques, and relationship repair strategies that help parents regulate first, validate emotions, and build connection instead of conflict.

Whether your teen slams doors, struggles with overwhelming feelings, or you're grieving the shift from "baby" to independent young adult—this episode is filled with actionable insights to help you show up as the calm, steady presence your teen needs.

Key topics include:

• What "fire feelers" are and why common phrases like "just sleep on it" backfire
• The "notice and name" skill for emotional regulation
• Radical acceptance vs. resignation when parenting doesn't look like you imagined
• Breaking escalation cycles with the parental stress meter
• The Hierarchy of Connection for repairing damaged relationships
• Why validation comes before solutions (and how to stop "emotional helicopter parenting")

Grab a copy of You're On Fire, It's Fine and start implementing these strategies today.

Guest Bio

Katie K. May, LPC is a therapist, national speaker, and one of only a handful of Linehan Board Certified DBT clinicians. She specializes in supporting teens with depression, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, and intense emotions. Katie is the owner and executive director of Creative Healing and the author of You're On Fire, It's Fine: Effective Strategies for Parenting Teens with Self-Destructive Behaviors. She lives in the Philadelphia area with her family.

Key Takeaways / Quotes

• "When you are someone who has these big and overwhelming feelings, you're a deep feeler, it often feels like you are on fire with your emotions." – Katie K. May
• "Validation comes before change."
• "It's never too late to repair the relationship."
• "Parents go first—we practice and model the skills we want to see in our children."
• "The good news is that there's a theory called the good enough parent... you only need to get this right 20% of the time."

Resources Mentioned

• Book: You're On Fire, It's Fine: Effective Strategies for Parenting Teens with Self-Destructive Behaviors by Katie K. May → Buy it online anywhere books are sold → Free chapter + more at: youreonfireitsfine.com

Connect with Katie

• Instagram: @katiekmay
• Instagram: @creative_healing
• TikTok: @teensupportcenter
• Facebook: @Creative Healing
• LinkedIn: Katie K. May

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In this heartfelt and eye-opening episode of Moms Brain Is a Coffee Stain, host Kayla sits down with Dr. Angele Close, clinical psychologist and motherhood coach, for a powerful conversation about motherhood, emotional regulation, anger, identity shifts, and the magic that can exist alongside the mess.

Dr. Close shares compassionate, real-world insight into why motherhood can feel so overwhelming, how anger often shows up as a signal rather than a failure, and what it looks like to parent ourselves while raising our children. This episode is a must-listen for moms who feel stretched thin, emotionally overloaded, or stuck in cycles of guilt and burnout—but still want to reconnect with joy and meaning.

✨ What You’ll Hear in This Episode

• Why motherhood can amplify emotions we didn’t even know were there
• How anger in motherhood is often misunderstood—and what it’s really trying to tell us
• The importance of self-compassion over self-judgment
• Letting go of the pressure to be a “perfect mom”
• Reclaiming joy, play, and magic in everyday motherhood
• How nervous system regulation impacts our parenting responses
• Breaking generational patterns with awareness instead of shame

🧠 Key Takeaways

• Anger is not the enemy—it’s information
• You are not broken for struggling in motherhood
• Regulation starts with awareness, not control
• Small mindset shifts can create big emotional relief
• Motherhood is allowed to be both hard and beautiful

💬 Notable Quotes

“Motherhood has a way of bringing everything to the surface.”
“Anger is often grief, exhaustion, or unmet needs trying to be heard.”
“You don’t need to fix yourself—you need to be supported.”

👩‍⚕️ About the Guest

Dr. Angele Close is a clinical psychologist and motherhood coach who supports women through the emotional highs and lows of motherhood. Her work focuses on helping moms understand their nervous systems, navigate anger and overwhelm, and reconnect with themselves without shame.

🌐 Website: drangeleclose.com
📘 Book: Unburdening Motherhood → unburdeningmotherhood.com

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In this episode of Mom’s Brain Is a Coffee Stain, we dive into real-life motherhood, parenting, special needs advocacy, and what it looks like to start over when life doesn’t go as planned. Host Kayla is joined by author, podcast host, and former mom entrepreneur Jessica Danel for an honest conversation about marriage, burnout, business, and resilience.

Jessica shares her journey from building a million-dollar preschool business from the ground up to stepping away when motherhood — and advocating for a child with special needs — required everything she had. She opens up about identity loss, grief, faith, marriage after 25+ years, and the unexpected courage it takes to begin again in midlife.

Together, Kayla and Jessica talk about:

• Parenting children with special needs and navigating IEP advocacy
• Trusting your gut when professionals don’t listen
• The emotional toll of being the “default parent”
• Marriage, motherhood, and long-term commitment
• Walking away from a successful business without losing yourself
• Using humor to survive trauma, burnout, and overwhelm
• Why sharing your story matters — even when it’s messy

Jessica also dives into her memoir, Bucket List From a Redneck Girl, a raw and heartfelt collection of stories about childhood trauma, faith, resilience, and the moments where God shows up when you least expect it.

This episode is for any mom who has ever felt exhausted, unseen, or unsure if she’s doing enough — and needs the reminder that starting over doesn’t mean starting from nothing.

Guest Information

Jessica Danel
Author • Podcast Host • Mom • Entrepreneur

🌐 Website:
www.jesssaying.net

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Jess Saying with Jessica Danel

📚 Book:
Bucket List From a Redneck Girl
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jessdanel

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Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-danel-mba-88970283/

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Truth: https://truthsocial.com/@JessicaDanel

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What if the question isn’t “Which college should my kid go to?” but “Is my child actually ready for what comes next?”

In this episode of Mom’s Brain Is a Coffee Stain, Kayla sits down with Prasant Nukalapati, lifelong educator, parent, and founder of What Comes Next Ed Consulting, for a deeply honest conversation about teens, college readiness, parent anxiety, and helping young people discover their why—not just their next step.

With over 27 years of experience working with teens and families, Prasant shares why the “college conveyor belt” doesn’t work for every student, how parental pressure (even when well-intended) can cloud decision-making, and what real readiness for college actually looks like.

Together, Kayla and Prasant unpack:

• Why college should be part of the journey—not the destination
• How parent anxiety shapes teen decision-making (often without us realizing it)
• The hidden challenges students face once they get to college
• Why self-advocacy and time management matter more than test scores
• What parents of kids with IEPs and learning differences need to know before college
• The truth about FERPA and why parents may not have access to grades
• Why gap years, trade schools, and alternative paths are not “falling behind”
• How to help teens discover their personal purpose using curiosity—not pressure

Prasant also shares a powerful framework for helping teens uncover their personal why by exploring:

1. What they’re passionate about
2. What they’re genuinely good at
3. How they want to contribute to others

This episode is a must-listen for parents who want to support their kids without forcing them into a one-size-fits-all future—and for anyone who’s ever wondered if they’re doing “enough” as a parent during the college years.

Guest Information

Prasant Nukalapati
Founder, What Comes Next Ed Consulting

🌐 Website:

• https://whatcomesnextedconsulting.com
  
  
• https://wcned.com
  
  

Prasant offers free 30-minute consultations for families navigating college readiness, alternative pathways, and purpose-driven planning.

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🎙 Mom’s Brain Is a Coffee Stain

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What does it really mean to “be that guy” in today’s world—and how can parents support their sons without pushing them further away?

In this powerful and honest conversation, Kayla sits down with DJ Logory, founder of Be That Guy, to talk about what’s really going on with young men today. DJ shares his own story of feeling lost in his early 20s, why confidence and direction can’t be forced by parents, and how habits, accountability, and community can completely change a young man’s trajectory.

Together, they unpack:

• Why so many young men feel stuck, unmotivated, or overwhelmed
• What parents often get wrong when trying to “help” their sons
• How small daily habits build confidence, discipline, and self-trust
• What young men actually want (but rarely say out loud)
• How parents can support growth without overstepping

This episode is a must-listen for parents raising sons, young men trying to figure out their next chapter, and anyone who wants to better understand masculinity, emotional intelligence, and growth in today’s culture.

Guest Information
DJ Logory
Instagram: @DJLogory
Website: http://www.bethatguyclub.com/

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If your kid has rolled their eyes at you more times today than you’ve sipped your coffee… welcome home. In this episode of Moms Brain Is a Coffee Stain, Kayla and Crystal dive into the wild zone between strict parenting and gentle parenting — and why most of us are just doing our best in the messy middle.

From teen negotiations that feel like hostage situations, to real-life stories of safety, boundaries, emotional validation, and those “I just have a bad feeling” moments… this episode is for every parent trying to keep their kids alive and somewhat respectful.

We’re talking:• How to keep open communication without becoming a doormat• Why safety trumps “but everyone else gets to!”• How to stand firm without turning your home into a supermax• The difference between advocating and pestering• And why you are NOT your teen’s best friend (yet)

Oh, and Kayla spills a teenage confession that may make you feel way better about your own wild years. You’re welcome.

Grab your mug. Pop in your earbuds. Let’s survive parenting together.

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Holiday break is creeping up, the house is chaos, and you’re one TikTok scroll away from forgetting everything on your to-do list… sound familiar?

Grab your coffee and hide with us as Kayla and Crystal break down the real difference between **helicopter parenting** (hovering 24/7) and **intentional parenting** (deliberate, thoughtful involvement). We’re talking childhood flashbacks, playground jelly wipes, banned trampolines, bike-to-school milestones, and why the internet gets full helicopter mode (true crime ruined us).

From personal stories (and plenty of laughs) to practical mom hacks, we’re figuring out how to hover when it matters, step back when it builds character, and not lose our minds on the tightrope in between. Spoiler: it’s okay to swing both ways — just don’t beat yourself up about it.

This one’s for every mom who’s ever sprinted after a kid with a forgotten permission slip… or banned a trampoline and bought a pool instead. You’re doing great. ☕

**Resources Mentioned**

- Need a mental health check-in? Call/text/chat **988** anytime (free, 24/7, confidential) → 988lifeline.org

- Caregiver burnout support:

– Mayo Clinic self-care tips: mayoclinic.org

– HelpGuide.org burnout guide

– ARCH National Respite Network (find local respite care): archrespite.org

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New episodes drop every Tuesday. If this helped you feel less alone in the mess, leave a rating/review — it helps another tired mom find us at 2 a.m.

Love y’all. Mean it. Go sip one for us. ☕✨

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Ever wonder what it's really like becoming a mom as a teenager? In this raw, heartfelt episode, host Kayla welcomes her sister-in-law (and hopefully permanent cohost!) Crystal for an unfiltered chat about young motherhood, the chaos of raising teenage boys, patience, unconditional love, and looking back without regrets.

From crying on porches and hyper-sensitive teen emotions to "bruh" cringes and learning to live in the moment—these two spill it all. Crystal shares how her boys taught her true patience and love, while Kayla reflects on the journey that shaped them both. Plus, real talk on self-care: take that breath, prioritize your mental health, and remember—it's going to be okay.

If you're feeling overwhelmed, you're not alone. Reach out:

• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call/text/chat 988 anytime for free, confidential support (988lifeline.org).
• Caregiver Burnout Resources:

Follow @momsbrainisacoffeestain on TikTok, IG & Facebook | Support the show & keep us caffeinated: buzzsprout.com/momsbrainisacoffeestain | Email your stories: momsbrainisacoffeestain@outlook.com

New episodes every Tuesday—grab your coffee and join the chaos! ☕✨

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