What really happens when people leave a church? How do pastors and their families carry that weight? In this vulnerable episode of Me & My Pod, Ricardo and Christian sit down for a raw and honest conversation about the highs and heartbreaks of ministry life.

This week, we’re talking about:

• The emotional toll of pastoring in silence
• Why “I’m not being fed” often misses the point
• Parenting five kids while navigating church transitions
• Protecting your marriage and your heart in leadership
• How to truly encourage your pastor and their family

We also celebrate 20 years of marriage, share stories from the parenting trenches, and reflect on what trust and calling really mean in ministry.

Whether you're a church member, a leader, or just someone trying to stay faithful in hard seasons, this episode is for you.

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After 20 years of marriage and 5 kids, Ricardo and Christian share their unconventional dating secrets that kept their romance alive. From fake Walmart proposals to grocery store dates, discover why they believe every trip together is a date and how simple rules like "always open the door" transformed their relationship.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why Sam's Club became their go-to date spot (and why it still works!)
• The one small gesture that made Ricardo think "she's a keeper"
• How they define dates (spoiler: it's not what you think)
• The simple door-opening rule that's lasted 20 years
• Why their kids are now copying dad's romantic gestures
• How dating helped Christian overcome depression
• Budget-friendly date ideas that actually work

Whether you're newlyweds or celebrating decades together, this episode will inspire you to reimagine what dating your spouse can look like.

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