Time to put down your differences for this powerful and deeply transparent episode of the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy, the conversation explores a truth that can completely transform any marriage, learning how to fight together instead of against each other.

Conflict is inevitable. Life brings pressure, mistakes, setbacks, and unexpected challenges. The real question is not whether couples will face conflict, but how they choose to respond when it comes. This episode invites you to shift your perspective from blame and division to unity and strategy.

Through raw storytelling and real life experiences, Tish and Pastor Roy open up about one of the most difficult seasons in their marriage, a time marked by financial loss, broken communication, and emotional distance. What could have torn them apart instead became the foundation for a deeper understanding of partnership, accountability, and trust.

They challenge listeners to consider a new approach. What if, in moments of frustration, instead of pointing fingers, you paused and recognized that the real problem is not your spouse, but the situation standing in front of both of you. What if you chose to stand side by side and face it together.

This episode highlights the importance of communication, vulnerability, and letting go of fear based decisions that create distance. It reminds couples that unity is not automatic, it is intentional. Fighting together means protecting the relationship, even in the middle of pain.

If you have ever felt misunderstood, overwhelmed, or on the verge of giving up during hard seasons, this conversation will encourage you to rethink conflict and rediscover the strength that comes from standing together.

Because the strongest marriages are not the ones without struggles, they are the ones that refuse to let those struggles come between them.

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Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Because when love is invested, it does not just last, it gets better every day.

In this fun episode of the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy, the conversation turns to one of the most overlooked keys to a thriving relationship, intentional investment in your marriage.

While many people pour time, energy, and money into building careers or businesses, this episode gently challenges couples to consider how much they are truly investing in their most important partnership. Through honest reflection and personal stories, Tish and Pastor Roy explore how real connection is built not through material gifts, but through shared experiences, meaningful time together, and a willingness to grow side by side.

From trying new foods and traveling together to creating special moments even during financially tight seasons, they remind listeners that investment does not have to be expensive to be powerful. Some of the most meaningful memories come from simple, intentional choices to prioritize one another.

This episode also highlights the importance of continuing to date your spouse, embracing new experiences together, and staying curious about who your partner is becoming. Marriage is not static, it is a journey of discovery, and the more you invest, the greater the return.

With warmth, humor, and real life insight, this conversation will inspire you to rethink how you spend your time, deepen your connection, and build a marriage that continues to grow stronger every day.

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Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Communication in marriage isn’t just about talking it’s about understanding the language your spouse hears, feels, and responds to. In this eye-opening episode of the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy, we explore how the way you communicate in marriage evolves and why what worked while dating may no longer work now.

From misunderstood jokes to silence that speaks volumes, this conversation dives deep into the hidden meanings behind everyday words. Tish and Pastor Roy share personal stories about how their upbringing, past relationships, and emotional experiences shaped the way they interpret communication and how those differences once caused confusion, frustration, and even hurt.

With honesty and warmth, they unpack the powerful realization that love isn’t just expressed through intention it’s received through interpretation. Learning your spouse’s “marital language” can transform tension into connection and misunderstandings into moments of growth.

You’ll hear touching reflections on family influence, including how love was modeled through actions like provision, loyalty, and consistency and how those lessons can both help and hinder modern relationships. This episode also highlights the importance of emotional safety, patience, and choosing connection over being “right.”

Whether you're newly married or years into your journey, this conversation will leave you reflecting on your own communication patterns and inspire you to love more intentionally.

Because when love is made with understanding, it doesn’t just last it grows deeper every single day.

#marriage communication, relationship advice, love language in marriage, couples communication tips, healthy marriage habits, emotional connection, relationship growth, marriage podcast, communication in relationships.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

What if intimacy is not what you have been taught to believe. In this powerful and thought provoking episode, the conversation goes far beyond the physical and dives into the true essence of connection in marriage.

This discussion challenges the common narrative that intimacy begins and ends in the bedroom. Instead, it reveals that real intimacy is built in the everyday moments where trust, safety, and vulnerability are consistently shown. It is about creating a space where both partners feel seen, accepted, and free to be fully themselves without fear of judgment or rejection.

Through honest dialogue and meaningful insight, this episode explores the difference between sex and making love, emphasizing that true connection is rooted in emotional and spiritual closeness. It highlights the importance of intentionally building an atmosphere where openness thrives and where both partners can communicate their deepest thoughts, fears, and desires.

From learning your spouse deeply to demonstrating trust in small but powerful ways, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on what it means to truly connect. It is not about perfection, but about presence, consistency, and choosing each other daily.

Many couples struggle with intimacy not because they lack love, but because they misunderstand what intimacy truly requires. This episode provides clarity and direction, helping couples build a stronger, more meaningful connection that goes far beyond the surface.

True intimacy is not found in a single moment, it is built over time through trust, care, and intentional love. When two people create a space where they can be fully known and fully accepted, that is where real connection begins.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

The wedding may be one day, but marriage is a mindset shift that happens every single day after. In this relatable and honest episode, the conversation dives into what it really means to transition from living for yourself to building a life with someone else.

From small habits like how you spend your time to bigger moments like showing up for your partner when it matters most, this episode unpacks the real adjustments couples face early in marriage. It is not about giving up who you are, but about learning how to think in terms of we instead of me.

Through humor and real life stories, including a memorable first argument that highlights expectations and communication gaps, this episode brings to life the growing pains that come with merging two lifestyles into one shared journey.

This is a conversation about awareness, compromise, and learning that love is not just a feeling, it is a series of intentional choices made daily.

Many couples enter marriage thinking love will carry them through everything. This episode highlights that while love is essential, understanding, communication, and adjustment are what truly sustain a healthy relationship.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Before the vows, before the big day, before everything becomes official there are conversations that matter more than anything else.

In this episode of the Making Love podcast, we dive into what couples should really be thinking about before getting married and why so many miss the signs that could save them from future heartache.

This is not about the fairytale version of love.

It is about the real work that builds a lasting marriage.

From learning how to truly listen instead of just waiting to respond, to recognizing how family dynamics shape relationship patterns, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what actually prepares couples for life together.

We also get into the topics most people avoid

Credit and finances
Communication habits
Sex and expectations
Family history and relationship patterns

Because the truth is, what you do not talk about before marriage will eventually show up after it.

With honesty and humor, we share personal stories from our own relationship including the early days of learning to be fully seen imperfections and all and why transparency is not optional if you want something real.

This episode is a reminder that marriage is not built on perfect moments.

It is built on honesty, growth, and the willingness to show up fully.

Because when love is real, it is not just about saying I do.

It is about doing the work that comes after.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com

Welcome back to Making Love the podcast where we keep it real about relationships, marriage, and everything in between.

Today’s conversation is one that so many of you have asked for again and again.

Learning how to fight right.

Because the truth is, the goal in marriage is not to fight. But if you do not know how to disagree, small things turn into big things fast.

In this episode, we open up about something that might surprise you. For a long time, we did not argue at all. Not because everything was perfect, but because we were avoiding conflict altogether.

On the outside, it probably looked peaceful. But underneath, we were quietly building pressure.

We talk honestly about where that came from.

For him, it was growing up in a home where he watched a marriage fall apart up close and personal. That experience shaped a deep desire to avoid anything that even felt like conflict.

For her, it was the opposite in a different way. There was no visible conflict growing up, but there also was not real communication. No deep conversations. No modeling of how to work through issues. So avoiding hard conversations felt normal.

And then there is the layer many people carry but do not always talk about.

Past relationships.

Pain.

Trauma.

Fear of what could happen if you say the wrong thing.

We get real about how past experiences, including abuse, can quietly shape how you show up in your current marriage. How fear can keep you silent. And how silence, over time, can create distance instead of peace.

At some point, everything shifted.

We realized that avoiding conflict was not protecting our marriage. It was hurting it.

Because what you do not deal with does not disappear. It builds.

So we had to learn a new way.

In this episode, we talk about what actually helped us move from avoidance to healthy communication.

Letting go of fear and understanding the commitment we made to each other
Creating a safe space where honesty does not lead to rejection
Giving each other grace especially when past wounds show up in present moments
Learning not to bring up old, already forgiven issues during new conversations
Choosing to love each other well even in the middle of hard moments

We also talk about something that does not get said enough.

You cannot treat people at work better than the person you come home to.

If you are giving patience, grace, and understanding to everyone else but bringing frustration into your home, something has to shift.

Your marriage deserves the best of you.

Not what is left over.

We bring you honest, healing, and deeply relatable for anyone who has ever struggled with communication, avoided hard conversations, or wondered how to handle conflict without damaging the relationship.

Because learning how to fight right is really about learning how to love better.

And that changes everything.

Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades.

They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grand-babies, they're still each other's favorite people.

Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.

Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation.

On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day.

They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together.

www.themakinglovepodcast.com