In this episode of our ongoing MEDICC (Medical Education in Countryside Communities) series, Dr. Jeff Amundson talks with Dr. Edward Krall, assistant professor at the Medical College of Wisconsin—Central Wisconsin, about physician wellness, beginning with Dr. Krall's 2014 article, "The 10 Commandments of Physician Wellness."

Their conversation expands to consider Dr. Krall's journey in medicine and interest in physician wellbeing, the importance of system factors and team dynamics, and Dr. Krall's late career joy from teaching and coaching medical students. Use these timestamps to jump to whatever part of the conversation you are most interested in or want to revisit after listening to the whole conversation.

1:44—Dr. Krall's journey to academic medicine and his interest in physician wellness

5:24—Has anything changed in how difficult it is to be a physician?

6:35—The Ten Commandments of physician wellbeing and character traits

11:48—The centrality of relationships and team dynamics

16:45—Coaching wellbeing with medical students

19:05—The role of the medical system in shaping physician wellbeing

22:30—The progression of students implementing wellbeing practice

27:51—Moving attitudes and systems toward wellbeing

31:40—Two take home pieces of advice from Dr. Krall

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Guest: Edward Krall, MD MS FAPA (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/psychiatry-and-behavioral-medicine/people/edward-krall-md)

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD

Producers: Jeff Amundson and Michael Braun