Perfection can save a life in the OR—but it can also cost your life outside of it. In this candid, high-octane conversation, Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes sits down with Dr. Lisa Hunsicker—board-certified plastic surgeon and race car driver—to talk about what it really takes to be whole in a system that trains you to be superhuman. We go there: the weight of perfectionism, the burnout nobody wants to admit, and the quiet courage it takes to lay it down—the armor, the anxiety, the never-enough.

Dr. Hunsicker shares the rituals and boundaries that help her protect her heart, the racing mindset that keeps her present at 150 mph, and the roadmap behind her upcoming workbook, The Strength to Lay It Down—a guide for clinicians (and any high achiever) ready to reconnect to purpose without losing themselves.

What We Cover

• Perfection vs. Presence: Why “flawless” can be fatal to joy—and how to choose present over perfect without lowering standards.
• The Cost of the Cape: How the “hero complex” fuels burnout—and how to right-size your role so you can keep serving and stay human.
• Boundaries That Breathe: Micro-rituals, language, and schedules that protect your nervous system on and off shift.
• Community as Medicine: Building circles that hold you accountable to rest, recovery, and real talk.
• Racing Wisdom for the Ward: The focus, recovery, and self-talk techniques Dr. H uses on the track—and in clinic.

Connect with Dr. Lisa

IG: @revallaplasticsurgery

@soulfulsurgeon

FB: Revalla Plastic Surgery and Medical Aesthetics

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlisahunsicker/

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie explores the complex nature of comparison, discussing its potential to be both harmful and beneficial. She emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and intentionality in navigating comparison, highlighting the spectrum from unhealthy to healthy comparison. Dr. Barnes shares personal anecdotes and insights on how to recognize and shift from toxic comparison to a more constructive approach that fosters personal growth and fulfillment. Ultimately, she encourages listeners to embrace their unique journeys and trust their individual paths.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie discusses the concept of joy and the detrimental effects of joy killing, particularly in the context of social media and personal interactions. She emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, compassion, and celebrating others' achievements as a means to cultivate joy in one's own life. The conversation encourages listeners to reflect on their own behaviors and attitudes towards joy and to embrace a mindset of positivity and support.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

Episode Notes: On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie reflects on the beauty of aging and the importance of maintaining a future-focused mindset. She shares personal anecdotes about her birthdays and emphasizes that aging is not about getting old but about growing forward. The conversation highlights the significance of having purpose and goals at any age, encouraging listeners to embrace their experiences and look forward to new opportunities. Dr. Stephanie challenges the notion of aging by discussing the power of language and the importance of creating a narrative that focuses on growth and evolution rather than nostalgia.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie reflects on her experiences during a retreat at Miraval in Austin, Texas, focusing on the lessons learned about embracing life's unexpected turns, the beauty of detours, and the importance of trusting the journey. She shares personal anecdotes about her planned itinerary and how life led her to a more fulfilling experience than she had anticipated. Through her story, she encourages listeners to remain open to new paths and to recognize that sometimes the detours in life can lead to greater fulfillment and clarity.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On the 100th Episode of Living Life in the And Podcast, in this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes shares her transformative experience with honey tasting, using it as a metaphor for authenticity and individuality in life. She emphasizes the importance of embracing one's true self and not conforming to societal expectations. Through the lens of honey, she illustrates how our unique experiences shape our essence and flavor, encouraging listeners to stand firm in their authenticity and to appreciate the richness of their individuality.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie shares profound insights gained from the Japanese art of Suminagashi, emphasizing the importance of surrendering control in life. Through her experiences, she illustrates how beauty can emerge from chaos and the necessity of trusting the process of creation. The conversation explores themes of personal growth, the power of disruption, and the significance of co-creating with a higher purpose. Stephanie encourages listeners to embrace the art of letting go and to recognize that fulfillment comes from taking action rather than merely desiring change.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!

On this installation of Musings from the Mind of Dr. SDB, Dr. Stephanie reflects on her experience at a technology-free retreat, emphasizing the importance of unplugging from digital devices to reconnect with oneself. She shares personal anecdotes about her struggles with technology dependence and the profound peace she found in nature. Through journaling and meditation, she discovered clarity and renewal, encouraging listeners to embrace moments of stillness and disconnect from the noise of everyday life.

By day she is a healthcare innovation attorney, but Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is always Thee Liberated Lawyer committed to helping high-achieving experience a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Life is too long to be unfulfilled!

Dr. Stephanie's mission is to equip high achieving women to be successful AND fulfilled. We should not have to choose! She uses her experience as a trusted counsel and master strategist to help women identify real solutions and strategies to go from burnout to being ignited, invigorated, and inspired! The Successful and Fulfilled Woman is a high-achieving woman who is ready to get everything she desire now and does not have time to wait years before living a joyful, fulfilled and meaningful life. Dr. Stephanie equips powerful women to make powerful decisions to create the life they desire and deserve.

Dr. Stephanie received her law degree from Harvard Law School and her PhD in Organizational Leadership from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She is the host of the podcast, Living Life in the And! and Thee Liberated Lawyer blog. She was a founding host of the Black CEO Morning Show and the podcast, Conversations from the C-Suite: The Girlfriend’s Guide to Being A CEO. She is an internationally acclaimed speaker, TEDx Presenter and coach, badass bodybuilder and senior model.

Follow Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes www.facebook.com/DrStephanieDBarnes and instagram @drstephaniedbarnes.

🚀 Ready to Transform Your Life?

Are you a high-achieving woman feeling stuck, uninspired, or ready for a fresh start? Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes is here to help you step into the success and fulfillment you deserve!

✨ If you're ready to:

✅ Reignite your passion and purpose

✅ Start over after a major life change

✅ Create a meaningful and fulfilling life

✅ Stop marking time and start truly living

Then it’s time for a Revelation Conversation! This powerful one-on-one session will help you gain clarity, break through barriers, and take the first step toward your New You!

💻 Book your complimentary session now: www.everythingideserve.com

Go to www.drstephaniedbarnes.com to learn more about how to transform and become the New You!