Nadia and Rob check in as the EEOC tells employers to forget about collecting demographic data, a new study shows retail workers rely on SNAP and Medicaid, and Meta does Meta things! Then Nadia and Rob hit on a rule of thumb for AI at work: AI for creating things = good, AI for making people decisions = bad.

Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/federal-civil-rights-agency-moves-to-stop-requiring-demographic-data-collection-after-60-years

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-26-108703

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/14/meta-lawsuit-layoffs-ai.html

https://hrexecutive.com/google-employees-demand-severance-guarantees-as-tech-layoffs-near-157000/?utm_source=omeda&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter-HRE+Now+newsletter+-+Wednesday&om_id=1110128066&om_eid=6122G2643790C2Z&hs_ce=&oly_enc_id=6122G2643790C2Z

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/20/artificial-intelligence-drug-development-impact

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Author and labor economist James Felton Keith stops by to talk to Nadia and Rob about his newest book, "Your Data, Their Wealth." They discuss how companies are profiting off of the entire human experience, the origins and math behind calculating what people are owed for the data that drives improved decision-making, and why Lil Jon and the Ying Yang Twins owe JFK money.

Check out "Your Data, Their Wealth" by James Felton Keith at: https://www.jamesfeltonkeith.com/product-page/your-data-their-wealth-the-price-of-human-input-to-the-al-economy

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Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven people and culture strategy.

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Nadia and Rob are back in the news (figuratively) as they break down how HB-1 visas and layoffs are impacting tech-heavy city real estate markets, AI-driven changes to State Farm agents' commissions, and the Meta layoffs and the rise of boomerang workers. Later, Nadia rants about rampant corruption as Rob tries to find a red, white, and blue lining in this year's Fourth of July celebrations.

Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today:

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/h-1b-visa-curbs-on-indians-slow-texas-real-estate-us-immigration-policy-11594879/amp/1

https://www.wsj.com/finance/state-farms-ai-plan-for-sales-agents-sparks-uproar-a-real-slap-in-the-face-6453e2cb

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/05/28/michael-dell-trump-accounts-dod.html

https://hrexecutive.com/metas-zuckerberg-weve-made-mistakes-in-ai-transformation/?oly_enc_id=6122G2643790C2Z

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Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey, founder of The Element of Inclusion, joins Dr. Nadia and Rob to talk about why AI is bringing inclusion back, how organizations change when our team members are bots, and how AI can create opportunities to measure inclusion.

Find season 6 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven people and culture strategy.

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Rare disease supply chain executive Michele Liuzzi and operating model design expert Olga Potaptseva join Nadia and Rob to discuss their collaboration to develop The Harmonious Operating Model, why breaking down silos is "addictive" for leaders and employees, and why organizations have to anchor their decisions in "why?".

Learn more about Sataaya Consulting at: https://www.sataaya.com

Read the whitepaper at: https://www.eucustomerconsultancy.com/operationalblueprint-2

Find season 6 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven people and culture strategy.

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Season 6 kicks off with the stories Nadia and Rob have been bursting to talk about during their hiatus. Allbirds goes from wooly shoes to AI, Deloitte creates a caste system and cuts benefits, DEI survives a major court case, and a federal worker pulls a fast one. Later, Rob rants about CEO pay and Nadia raves about Lego.

Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today:

• https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/15/allbirds-bird-stock-shoes-ai.html

• https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/deloitte-just-axed-50k-ivf-171500592.html?

• https://www.hrdive.com/news/dei-training-didnt-lead-to-hostile-work-environment-10th-circuit/820017/

• https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/apr/2/nehemie-almonor-federal-worker-va-admits-using-telework-get-3/

Find season 6 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1i5q2ALf97g1pNz1TdSC_OBOlnPcFhsXs?usp=drive_link

Connect with us:

Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness

Visit https://luma.com/trustbydesign for workshops and webinars to use data and AI to build organizational trust

Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at inclusivecollectivepodcast@gmail.com

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In this season's finale, Nadia and Rob circle back on their predictions for the what has become the longest year ever. They also check in on a new workplace term to argue over and discuss the jury verdicts against Meta and what they mean for the workplace. Also, they discuss all of the great feedback they are getting on the show and share how you can work with Nadia and Rob!

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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James D. White and Krista White, authors of the bestselling book "Culture Design" stop by to discuss how leaders can build high-performing organizations intentionally, why culture may be more important than strategy. Nadia and Rob also check out the latest survey on Gen Zs attitudes towards gender roles and they check in on all of the signs of weakness in the economy. Later, Nadia rants about the return of bias on airplanes and Rob gives an art recommendation.

Connect with Krista:https://www.thekristawhite.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kristawhite3/IG: @thekristawhiteConnect with James:https://www.jdwhitedesignlabs.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-d-white-086ab2153/Mentioned in this episode:- Trad wives : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/gen-z-men-baby-boomers-wives-should-obey-husbands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherConnect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at inclusivecollectivepodcast@gmail.comFollow Inclusive Collective LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/inclusivecollective/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inclusivecollectivepodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivecollectivepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InclusiveCollective/ Connect with Nadia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadianazbutt/ Connect with Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hadley-utah/