🎧 Leadership Rules with Matt Miller
Title: Keep the Main Thing the Main Thing

AI is everywhere. So what actually matters now?

In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Matt Miller, educator, author of AI Literacy in Any Class, and creator of the Ditch That Textbook movement, to talk about how teaching and leadership are evolving in an AI saturated world.

Matt challenges the idea that we need more tools and instead focuses on something more important.

Better thinking.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why “ditch the textbook” is really about ditching passive learning
• How AI literacy shows up in everyday classroom moments
• Why students don’t need to master the tech, but must learn to question it
• The risk of going all in or all out on technology
• Why critical thinking, discernment, and creativity matter more than ever

Matt also shares practical ways to bring AI into the classroom without losing the human element, including how to use imperfect AI outputs to spark deeper thinking and discussion.

If you care about education, leadership, or preparing students for a future we cannot fully predict, this episode will reshape how you think about both technology and teaching.

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Book → AI Literacy in Any Class available on Amazon

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🎧 Leadership Rules with Scott Martin
Title: Success Isn’t the Goal. Flourishing Is.

What if the goal of school wasn’t just success… but flourishing?

In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Dr. Scott Martin, Executive Director of the Odyssey Leadership Academy, to talk about how leadership can create environments where both students and educators truly thrive.

Scott believes that leadership is both art and science, and that great leaders carry a deep responsibility to care for the people in their community. He also challenges many traditional assumptions about school, including grades, agency, and what real learning looks like.

In this conversation, we explore:

• The difference between leadership and management
• Why the leader sets the “nervous system” of an organization
• How flourishing can become a school’s North Star
• What happens when students are given real agency in their learning
• Why resilience grows when students create learning instead of just consuming it

Scott also shares how Odyssey Leadership Academy empowers students to design projects, teach classes, and even build real-world solutions like a student-built tiny home.

If you care about leadership, education, and building cultures where people thrive, this episode will challenge the way you think about success.

📍 Learn more about Odyssey Leadership Academy
https://OdysseyLeadershipAcademy.org

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🎧 Leadership Rules with EJ Carrion
Title: Think in Decades, Not Days

What does it mean to lead in a world where students are living three lives at once?

Personal life.
School life.
Phone life.

In this high energy conversation, EJ Carrion challenges us to rethink education, leadership, and what it means to prepare young people for a future that looks nothing like the past.

EJ is the co founder of Student Success Agency, a first generation college graduate, Gates Millennium Scholar, and someone who believes schools must evolve from Blockbuster to Netflix if they want to stay relevant.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why the phone is not just a distraction but a door
• What a “digital YMCA” could look like for students
• How to build agency in young people
• Why leadership is art, not science
• What it means to be a pirate ship leader instead of the Navy
• And why selflessness is compound interest

EJ also shares three principles that guide his leadership:

Think in decades instead of days
Selflessness is compound interest
Choose we instead of me

If you care about student success, digital culture, human connection, or the future of public education, this one will stretch your thinking.

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LinkedIn → EJ Carrion

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