In this moving conversation, Victoria Loorz and Justine Afra Huxley explore kincentric leadership as both an unlearning and an emergence — a return to sacred relationship with Earth and a new way of living as spiritual leaders. Drawing from Sufi tradition, spiritual ecology, and deep listening to the more-than-human world, Justine invites us into a future shaped by kinship, reverence, and co-creation.

Mentioned in the episode:

• Website: patmccabe.net

Connect with Justine:

• Website: kincentricleadership.org
• Book: Generation Y: Spirituality and Social Change
• Magazine: emergencemagazine.org
• Website: goldensufi.org
• Website: stethelburgas.org

Connect with the Center:

• Website: wildspirituality.earth
• Victoria's Website: victorialoorz.com
• Email: hello@wildspirituality.earth
• Linktree: linktr.ee/ctrforwildspirituality
• Instagram: @center_for_wild_spirituality

Timestamps:

• 0:00 Introduction
• 4:48 Justine's Beginnings in the Sufi Tradition
• 7:35 Sacred Earth
• 9:15 An Encounter In Devon
• 10:56 Inner Life Becoming Outer Life
• 12:05 Suffering Earth Severance
• 12:39 The Work Is Spiritual
• 15:29 Integration At Every Level
• 17:29 Unlearning At Every Level
• 22:41 Kincentric Leadership
• 25:03 Many Knowledges Integrating
• 26:34 Readiness For This Wild Shift
• 27:49 The Need For New Words
• 31:35 Avail Yourself
• 33:13 Offerings To Water
• 36:00 A Fire Ceremony Story
• 38:17 The Pace Of Emergence
• 40:02 Adapting Without Appropriating
• 41:01 Inviting Earth In To The Ceremony Markers
• 42:14 Farewells
• 43:58 Wandering Invitation
• 45:34 Corrine and Golden Eagle

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