Hey friends, I want to talk about something big. Change the actual world big, because the world won't unfuck itself, as we all know.

We are joining podcasts across the planet for Pods Fight Poverty, a campaign directly supporting our good friends at Give Directly. Now, if you've been with us since episode 116, which feels like a thousand years ago, you'll remember when we asked one of the most deceptively simple, world altering questions ever.

Why is just giving people money the most effective way to help them change their lives and maybe even end global poverty altogether?

To crack that open I had Caroline Teti and Michael Faye on the show, two people who've spent years with Give Directly, knee deep in data and logistics and lived experience, my favorite combination of things, and guess what the answer turned out to be?

People are the experts on their own lives. You are. So why aren't they? Different people need different things on different days. So if you want them to get exactly what they need, you give them the resources to choose cash directly, and that's what Give Directly does.

No middlemen, no guessing, just trusting other humans with the dignity and agency we would expect and that they deserve. Yeah, wild idea. It works. It works better than almost anything else we've tried.

So here's the part where you come in. None of us can erase global poverty by ourselves. Again, that's our whole tagline. But literally, any one of us can lift one person out of poverty, today, right now. So for Pods Fight Poverty, if you can head to givedirectly.org/important and chip in.

That's givedirectly.org/important. And look to take it even further, my wife and I already personally contribute to Give Directly every year, every month actually, which is the best way to support a group like this, by the way.

And thousands of you all do too. I'm gonna step it up and will personally match the next $5,000 in donations when you use our link, which again is givedirectly.org/important. So let's do it.

And to get you in the spirit, we're gonna revisit our conversation right now with Teti and Michael. It's funny, it's hopeful, it's deeply nerdy, and it'll remind you why this work matters every single day. Thanks as always for giving a shit.

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INI Book Club:

• “The Biggest Bluff” by Maria Konnikova
• “The Art of Reading Minds” by Henrik Fexeus
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What if talking about menopause out loud was as normal as talking about sports scores or school pickup?

Imagine it in movie plots, in your group chat, at the clinic, and on the campaign trail because when we name what's happening in our bodies, three things can follow: better care, better research, and better policy.

Normalizing the conversation around something that's gonna happen to half the population isn't oversharing. It's infrastructure. This is how we're gonna get appointments that move the needle for people. This is how we're gonna get workplace benefits that actually matter and research dollars that finally match the need, especially for those most impacted and least studied.

So what can I do to make menopause a public everyday conversation?

My guest today is Jennifer Gerson.

She's a journalist at the 19th, one of my favorite publications, and the author of their new menopause newsletter. Jennifer blends sharp reporting with practical scripts, and memes, how to talk to your doctor or your partner or your teen or someone in HR, and maybe your elected representatives too, because you know we love that.

So that this thing that's been so intensely private and understudied, on purpose, becomes public. And so progress compounds. This one can definitely change the conversation in your home and far, far beyond it.

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• The Day The Crayons Made Friends by Drew Daywalt
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• Jennifer is listening to: the new Snocaps album, and all the Zombies soundtracks
• Find a healthcare provider specializing in midlife women's health using resources at The Menopause Society
• Subscribe to Jennifer's menopause newsletter at the 19th

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If the American Revolution was, as Ken Burns put it, the biggest event since the birth of Christ, then there's probably never been a better time to explore and drastically expand on why it happened, who was involved, and what it set us up for than right now.

My guest today again is David Schmidt.

David is the producer and co-director, along with Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein, of American Revolution, a six-part, 12-hour series premiering on PBS this November.

David is a childhood friend, but two decades after he and I played Nintendo in his basement, he began working with Florentine Films as a researcher and apprentice editor, beginning with The Roosevelts in 2014, where he also supervised the documentary's seven-episode script.

David's research on the Vietnam War in 2017 won him the Jane Mercer Footage Researcher of the Year Award, and he also worked closely on that project with writer Geoffrey C. Ward and helped coordinate post-production. With Burns, Schmidt also produced the two-part biography Benjamin Franklin in 2022 for PBS.

I can't wait for you to hear this discussion. I think it pairs really nicely with our conversation with Clint Smith and can't wait for you to see this piece.

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INI Book Club:

• This Here Is Love by Princess Joy L. Perry
• The Sellout by Paul Beatty
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• Watch the 12-part series, The American Revolution, on PBS https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-american-revolution
• Read The American Revolution book by Ken Burns and Geoffrey C. Ward https://bookshop.org/a/8952/9780525658672
• David is listening to: The American Revolution playlist, Hammond Song by The Roches, and The Shape of Water soundtrack

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I've recorded hundreds of conversations with incredible people working on the front lines of the future. People who've asked the most important question: what can I do? Who found their answer and followed it.

But for today's conversation, we're going back to the front lines of the past because the past can tell us a whole hell of a lot about today and how tomorrow might go.

But only if we tell the full story of how we got here, about who got us here, about how my great-great-grandparents got here. And how my grandma got here fleeing the Nazis, and how millions of Africans were forcibly brought here, over 35,000 trips across the middle passage over almost 300 years.

The full story of the choices we made then, which was not so long ago, and continue to make now about wars and heritage and bondage and family and land and more.

And how, if we can break from the stories we've been told and continue to tell ourselves to choose history over nostalgia, to choose facts over memory and infinite disinformation on demand, we can make different choices.

My guest today is Clint Smith. Clint is the number one New York Times bestselling author of How the Word Is Passed: A Reckoning With the History of Slavery Across America, he's the winner of the National Book Critic Circle Award for nonfiction, the Hillman Prize for book journalism, the Stowe Prize, the Dayton Literary Peace Prize, and was selected by the New York Times as one of the 10 best books of 2021.

And now in 2025, the Young Reader's Edition has just come out and it is wonderful. Clint is also the author two books of poetry, the New York Times bestselling collection Above Ground, as well as Counting Dissent. Both poetry collections were winners of the Literary Award for Best Poetry Book from the Black Caucus of the American Library Association, and both were finalists for NAACP Image Awards.

Clint is a staff writer at The Atlantic and he has received fellowships for the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, New America, the Emerson Collective, the Art for Justice Fund, Cave Canum, and the National Science Foundation. His essays, poems, and scholarly writing have been published in The New Yorker, New York Times Magazine, the New Republic, Poetry Magazine, the Paris Review, the Harvard Educational Review, and elsewhere. Clint is a former National Poetry Slam Champion, and the recipient of the Jerome Jay Shestack Prize from the American Poetry Review.

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• How The Word Is Passed by Clint Smith
• How The Word Is Passed Young Readers Edition by Clint Smith, Adapted by Sonja Cherry-Paul
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Chronically parched is not something anyone in this country or anywhere should ever have to feel, but here we are.

So how are towns and states making clean water more affordable, reliable, and less controversial? 'cause remember, it's fucking water.

Look, you might feel like you're giving it all you got but when you look around things are a little dark out there. So you, our listeners and readers and viewers and users, whatever, across the world, want and demand more examples of fight and progress you can see and touch and feel, taste, and in these conversations, in this special series, in our partnership with our best friends that Run For Something, we're gonna do that.

Each of these episodes features two guests both sourced from the Run For Something pipeline and graduating classes. First, I'll introduce one young elected official at the state or local level who has actually made real measurable progress on an issue facing more Americans than ever before, something that you'll notice.

And then in the same episode, I'll introduce a bright-eyed candidate who's currently running for a state legislature for mayor, for city council, or for school board, who is similarly hellbent on attacking the same issue in their own hometown or their state. And for all you know, one of these could be in yours or near yours, or just have lessons that apply to yours.

Today our topic: drinking water. You'd think it wouldn't be complicated or controversial, but remember folks, bad guys are real.

Introducing our incumbent, State Rep Laurie Pohutsky is a Michigan born millennial microbiologist serving her fourth term in the Michigan House of Representatives where she serves on the Oversight Committee and is the Chair of the Progressive Women's Coalition.

Laurie sponsored legislation that became Michigan's Clean Energy and Jobs Act of 2023. She's the co-sponsor of legislation to make polluters pay, which is always great, and to amend Michigan's Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, which focuses on environmental cleanup standards and procedures, which would be stellar since, as you know, the EPA has, basically been abolished.

Our candidate, Denzel McCampbell is a fine, young community advocate and native Detroiter, living and running for Detroit City Council District Seven. Denzel was born and raised in the east side and is a graduate of Michigan State University. He is dedicated to public service, to fighting day in and day out to increase access to democracy and representation for marginalized groups. He believes the Detroit city government should be a responsive government that uses its resources to ensure that every neighborhood is well resourced and that every resident is able to have the fundamentals.

Two amazing humans fighting for water, and fighting for everything else. Let's find out what it means for their hometowns, for Michigan, and for yours.

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I think we can all agree that kids shouldn't go hungry ever really, but especially at school.

You might feel right now like you are giving it everything you got, but when you look around, things feel kind of dark out there. So you, our listeners and readers and viewers across the country and across the world want, demand, need more examples of fight and real progress you can actually see and touch and feel and taste. And in these conversations, in partnership with our best friends at Run For Something, we're giving you exactly that. Each of these episodes features two guests both sourced from the Run For Something pipeline and graduating classes.

They are the next generation of American leaders. First, I'll introduce one young elected official at the state or local level who's made real measurable progress on an issue facing more Americans than ever before, like food, and then in the same episode, I'll introduce a bright-eyed candidate currently running for state legislature, mayor, city council, or like today's guest, school board, who's similarly hellbent on attacking the same issue in their own hometown or state.

And it matters because for all you know, it could be yours next.

So first up again, today, our topic: school lunches.

School breakfasts, after school meals for students and teachers and parents and caregivers and whoever needs it. Because without food teachers can't work. None of us can learn.

Our incumbent, Jessica Spillers is a mom, a social worker, and an advocate with 12 years of experience in community mental health, the criminal justice system, and the government sector. She currently serves on the school board in Manchester, New Hampshire, and was named the New Hampshire Young Democrat of the Year in May, 2024. Jessica recently announced enough is enough and decided to run for Mayor of Manchester.

Our candidate, Talia Rodriguez is running for the Buffalo Board of Education West District to be the first Latina on the board. She's a mom, a nonprofit development professional, and community advocate. She holds a law degree from the University of Buffalo and a Master's in Public Policy. She has extensive experience advancing educational equity, food justice, and bilingual programs. Talia is committed to uplifting diverse families, supporting student-centered policies and creating safe inclusive schools that meet the needs of all children.

I'm so excited to introduce you to these two amazing humans who are fighting for kids to have food. Let's find out what it means for their hometowns and for yours.

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• Creepy Pair of Underwear! by Aaron Reynolds
• The Bible and The Complete Poems of Anna Akhmatova
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Maybe you feel like you're already giving it all you've got. You look around, and things are tough out there. You, our listeners and readers and viewers and users across the country and across the world, you're demanding more examples of fight and progress you can actually see and touch and feel, and in these conversations, in this series, in partnership with our very best friends at Run For Something, we're gonna give you exactly what you asked for.

Each of these episodes features two guests, both sourced from the Run For Something pipeline and graduating classes, the next generation of leaders. In each episode, first, I'll introduce one young elected official at the state or local level who's made real measurable progress on an issue facing more Americans than ever before.

And then in the same episode, I'll introduce a bright-eyed candidate currently running for a state legislature or Senate, governor, mayor, city council, or school board, who is similarly hellbent on attacking the same issue in their own hometown or state.

First up today, our topic: gun control.

As The Onion posts once a month, there's no way to prevent this, says the only nation where this regularly happens. But there are ways to prevent it.

Not just school shootings or homicides or suicides or even accidental shootings in the home when a gun and ammo aren't stored safely or even fucking stored at all. We just need people in office who aren't cowards because we know what works.

Our incumbent is Missouri State legislator, Ray Reed, endorsed by Run For Something in 2024. Ray was just in the news for a bold sit-in protest, refusing to leave the floor of the Missouri house for over a hundred hours after Republicans there attempted to convene a special session and push through redrawn legislative maps at the behest of Donald Trump.

Ray is a St. Louis native, and he brings a wealth of experience in Missouri politics, having collaborated with notable democratic leaders like former Governor Jay Nixon and Senator Claire McCaskill.

Next I'll talk to our candidate, Jazz Hampton. Jazz is running for Mayor of Minneapolis because he loves the city. It's not just where he lives. It is who he is. He is not only a lifelong Twin Cities resident, and a husband there, he's the father of three Minneapolis public school students. He has been an attorney there, an educator there, and a social justice entrepreneur.

He has freed the wrongfully convicted. He has worked on advanced, affordable housing, protected civil rights, and created safer communities. Now he's ready to bring fresh leadership and unite Minneapolis after a hell of a decade.

Two amazing humans fighting for gun control in very different places, in the only nation where this regularly happens. Let's find out what it means for their hometowns and yours.

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• 107 Days by Kamala Harris
• Die With...

Things are a little tough out there. So you, want, no need, more examples of fight and progress you can actually see and touch and feel. And in these series of conversations, in partnership with our best friends at Run for Something, we are giving you exactly what you asked for.

Each episode features two guests, both sourced from the Run for Something pipeline and graduating classes, the next generation of American leaders. First, I'll introduce one young elected official at the state or local level who's made real, measurable progress on an issue facing more Americans than ever before.

And then in the same conversation I'll introduce a bright-eyed candidate currently running for a state legislature, mayor, city council, or school board, who's similarly hell bent on attacking the very same issue in their own hometown or state.

And for all you know, it could be yours. Or yours next, because you and I will find out together what they're working on and why, where they've made progress, where they've struggled, and how their exact tactics and strategies can be transferred to other schools, towns, cities, and states across the country.

First up today our topic: transit. We need way more of it. We used to have more of it. We need it to be more reliable, and we need it to be more affordable.

Our incumbent, New York State Senator Andrew Gounardes was born and raised in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. Following Superstorm Sandy Andrew co-founded Bay Ridge Cares, an organization that prepared 25,000 hot meals for victims after the storm, and as a member of the Rider's Alliance, he organized and formed the Concerned R-Train Riders to fight for better service and demand handicapped accessible subway stations in South Brooklyn. Andrew also worked with Bay Ridge Advocates for Keeping Everyone Safe or BRAKES and successfully pressured lawmakers to allow speed cameras in school zones, a fight he continues to wage all the way to Albany.

Our candidate, Miranda Schubert is a candidate for Tucson City Council, Ward 6. Miranda works full-time as an operations manager, on-air DJ, producer, and youth broadcasting camp counselor at KXCI Community Radio. She serves on two City of Tucson Commissions, is the founder of Tucson for Everyone, a local housing and transit advocacy group, and helped form the transit for all coalition there.

So you've got two amazing humans here fighting for more, more affordable, and safer transit, for more of our neighbors.

Let's go find out what it means for their hometowns and yours.

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INI Book Club:

• The Power Broker and The Passage of Power by Robert A. Caro
• Saving Time by Jenny