I’m an obsessive food label reader. As a human concerned with my health and my longevity, and as a consumer trying to make sure I’m limiting the amount of hyper-processed garbage I put into my body, I’ve taken to reading the label on just about everything I buy. I do still buy and eat junk food, for sure. I love Oreos and Nutter Butters and don’t plan on not eating them anytime soon. But I also try to avoid unnecessary additives whenever I can.

And without a doubt, there are a lot of additives in food. But here I am and we’re already off to a bad start—thinking that every single thing that goes into our food is by definition either bad for you or not needed. And of course, that’s not the case. There’s just so much more nuance to it than that.

Who better to catch up with about the nuances, then, than an actual professional flavorist working at one of the world’s most well known specialty ingredients producers: Kate Southrey, of International Flavors and Fragrances. Kate and I sat down in the comfort of my own home, just a few feet from the yogurt and the strawberries in my fridge, and we talked about yogurt and strawberries. And a whole lot more through the course of this fascinating conversation and deep-dive into what flavorists do to help us enjoy all kinds of foods, conserve our world’s actual food resources, keep food costs manageable, and more.

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