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Discovery vs. Optimization Marketing: Why Most Startups Get It Wrong | Libby Weissman (Caviar, DoorDash)
In this episode of ExperiMENTAL, Sundar Swaminathan sits down with Libby Weissman (Caviar, Square, DoorDash) to unpack why so many startups fail to tell the difference between discovery and optimization marketing, and what it costs them.
You’ll learn:
✔ How to tell if you're in discovery or optimization
✔ Why unrealistic CAC targets derail your growth
✔ How to use experiments to build marketing conviction
✔ What “price is too high” usually means
✔ How to hire the right marketer for your stage
✔ Real examples from healthtech, food, and services
Libby brings structured thinking and sharp insight for early-stage B2C founders navigating growth. If you’re building in a noisy space, this is your blueprint.
🎧 ExperiMENTAL is hosted by Sundar Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Bounce and former Uber leader. This show is your behind-the-scenes look at how top marketers and data scientists make smarter decisions.
🧠 Expect unfiltered conversations, mental models, and case studies that help you cut waste, build conviction, and grow your B2C business.
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