"There is so much unsaid in photos." That’s part of what draws artist Veronica Charmont to photography. But there’s a lot said in this episode of I Want Your Job — about courage, recognition, and even calling yourself an artist. From navigating art school to unpacking the ethics of seeing and being seen, this conversation asks a big question: how the hell do you become an artist?

Veronica's Song:

U Should Not Be Doing That - Amyl and The Sniffers

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Mental health is a big hurdle within a career. How do you care for yourself while feelings of depression, obsession and jealousy arise at any moment? After reading florist Kayla Moons’ instagram posts about her ups and downs, I had to speak to her. I relate. I assumed so many of you would too. To be successful in whatever you pursue – you’ve got to sort your shit out first.

Kayla's Songs:

Dancing In The Club | MJ Lenderman

Maggie May | Rod Stewart

God Only Knows | Brian Wilson

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Building her brand, baby and after the loss of her father, Olivia's perspective on life shifted. In this episode of I Want Your Job, I chat with the founder of Cleopatra's Bling, Olivia Cummings, to understand the roles of life and death in creativity, business and personal life. How do the most assured facts of life change our purpose?

Olivia's Tracks:

Gregorian Chant: Easter Day Service

Prince - Kiss

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