Nisarg Nikiel is a 2/4 Reflector, a certified Human Design Analyst and Teacher, with a rich background in energy therapies and psychological practices, including time spent with Osho in Poona. Nisarg's initiation into Human Design began in 1999 with a reading from Ra Uru Hu, followed by extensive training under Ra's guidance. With over 21 years of experimentation in the Human Design System, Nisarg now shares her wisdom and experience through live teachings and training sessions worldwide.

In Part Two of today's podcast, we continue our conversation with Nisarg, discussing the process of experimentation and deconditioning. We delve into what happens at a Reflector Immersion Retreat, examining Human Design as an energetic map and our relationship to it. We revisit the concept of space, the quality of waiting and noticing, and how to navigate life's pressures. We also touch on teaching in person versus online, and future opportunities for Reflector immersions. Nisarg shares the possibility of moving from the not-self to no self and it is an incredible relief in a world that is often obsessed with identity.

For more information on Nisarg and her work, please visit https://www.nisarghumandesign.com/

To connect with the hosts visit:

• Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com
• John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphichumandesign.com

For more information on the Human Design Collective visit: humandesigncollective.com



For courses and workshops visit: courses.humandesigncollective.com

Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information visit:

• megruby.com
• andersparker.com

Nisarg Nikiel is a 2/4 Reflector, a certified Human Design Analyst and Teacher, with a rich background in energy therapies and psychological practices, including time spent with Osho in Poona. Nisarg's initiation into Human Design began in 1999 with a reading from Ra Uru Hu, followed by extensive training under Ra's guidance. With over 21 years of experimentation in the Human Design System, Nisarg now shares her wisdom and experience through live teachings and training sessions worldwide.

In Part One of today's podcast, Nisarg shares her initiation into the Human Design System, her time with Ra, and her early experiences as a Reflector. She discusses how she came to recognize her own frequency, as well as the potential to differentiate between interpersonal conditioning and the transit program. We also delve into her Reflector immersion retreats, the importance of space and place, and the process of deconditioning. There is an undeniable spaciousness to her presence that feels both light and grounded offering a reference point for the experience of truly living one’s design.

For more information on Nisarg and her work, please visit https://www.nisarghumandesign.com/

To connect with the hosts visit:

• Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com
• John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphichumandesign.com

For more information on the Human Design Collective visit: humandesigncollective.com



For courses and workshops visit: courses.humandesigncollective.com

Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information visit:

• megruby.com
• andersparker.com

Maria Mateus is a 6/3 Emotional Manifesting Generator on the Left Angle Cross of Duality. She has been studying and practicing astrology since her teens and has recently come off the roof in her 6th Line process. Maria has a BA in Psychology and one of a handful of MA degrees in Astrology from Kepler College. Her research has culminated in a deep understanding of astrology as a language apart from its common use as a kind of personality typing system.

In this episode, we discuss some of the key areas of focus in her work including the birth chart as a story of becoming, life as a journey, and the chart as our itinerary, polarities, and the compensatory nature of signs. We also touch on timing and the turning of the birth chart, and explore how the spiritually “good” charts are the challenging ones, along with several other common misconceptions in astrology. We hope you enjoy the conversation.

For more information on Maria and her work, please visit https://www.lincosastrology.com/.

To connect with the hosts visit:

• Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com
• John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphichumandesign.com

For more information on the Human Design Collective visit: humandesigncollective.com



For courses and workshops visit: courses.humandesigncollective.com

Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information visit:

• megruby.com
• andersparker.com