You know that friend whose name pops up on your phone and you already feel tired?

She calls. She unloads. She feels so much better. And somehow, you need a nap, a snack, and possibly an exorcist.

So… are energy vampires actually real, or are some people just exhausting?

This week, Lisa Wilson and Lisa Smith are joined by energy healer Jenifer Freer to talk about the people who seem to drain the life out of us—and how to tell the difference between an energy vampire, someone having a hard time, and the uncomfortable possibility that sometimes we might be the problem.

We get into draining friendships, negative coworkers, grief thieves, joy thieves, emotional boundaries, energy attachments, auras, and ways to protect your energy when you can't simply cut someone out of your life.

Jenifer also gives both Lisas a live energy reading, Lisa Wilson reveals why she keeps salt in her car, Lisa Smith discovers that Prince may be her spirit guide, and we ask the question nobody really wants to ask:

What if I’ve been the energy vampire?

If you've ever hung up the phone with someone and wondered why you're suddenly exhausted, this one's for you.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Are Energy Vampires Real?
02:40 Energy Vampire or Just Exhausting?
05:00 Meet an Energy Healer: How Does Energy Really Work?
07:53 What Is an Energy Vampire?
10:25 How Do You Know When Someone Is Draining Your Energy?
13:22 Grief, Negativity & the People Who Steal Your Joy
17:15 Can You Actually Read Someone’s Energy?
21:29 What Does Your Aura Say About You?
23:43 Energy Attachments: Can You Carry Someone Else’s Energy?
25:56 How to Protect Your Energy Without Cutting Everyone Off
30:23 Plot Twist: What If YOU’RE the Energy Vampire?
34:15 Finding Your High-Vibe People

YOUR TURN: Who drains your battery, and have you ever realized you were the one doing the draining?

We're Lisa and Lisa, two longtime friends having funny, occasionally inappropriate, and unexpectedly honest conversations about the things women are already talking about in the group chat.

You are not alone. Come sit with us.

Have you ever had a gut feeling that something terrible was about to happen—and then it did? Or seen something so strange that you're still trying to explain it years later?

This week on High Five Hot Mess, Lisa Wilson and Lisa Smith are talking about women's intuition, premonitions, unexplained experiences and all the things we believe even when we can't prove them.

We're getting into bad-news premonitions, mysterious visions, doppelgangers, guardian ancestors, synchronicities, energy healing and the possibility that one of us might actually be a witch. Yes, Etsy is involved.

From a gargoyle appearing beside the bed to a fiery chariot crossing the sky, these are the stories that make you call your best friend and ask, "Am I losing my mind, or has something like this happened to you?"

Whether you trust your gut, believe in the supernatural or need proof before you'll believe anything, come hang out with us. We're not experts. We're two friends with some very strange stories and a lot of questions.

YOUR TURN: Have you ever had a premonition, experienced something you couldn't explain or trusted your intuition when everyone else thought you were crazy? Tell us your story!

00:00 Can You Feel Bad News Before It Happens?
01:39 Do You Believe What You Can't Explain?
01:57 Have You Ever Experienced Something Unexplainable?
04:38 Do You Trust Your Gut or Need Proof?
07:19 Women's Intuition: Can You Feel Bad Energy?
09:46 Premonitions: Have You Seen Something You Can't Explain?
12:38 Visions and Prophecies: What Does It All Mean?
16:43 UFOs: What If We're Not Alone?
18:31 Parallel Timelines: Did You Slip Into Another Dimension?
19:14 Doppelgangers: What If You Saw Your Double?
23:15 Are You an Empath or Just Really Intuitive?
24:09 Energy Healing, Witchcraft and the Power of Intention
25:44 Feng Shui: Can You Change the Energy in Your Home?
28:50 Is Karma Real? Does It Ever Catch Up?
30:16 Wait... Am I a Witch Now?
30:34 Can Your Ancestors Protect You?
35:02 Fate or Free Will: Is Your Life Already Planned?
36:34 Synchronicity: Coincidence or a Sign From the Universe?

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You finally moved into your fresh-start house after your divorce. Then your five-year-old looks at the foot of the bed and says, "Mom, there are three men standing there."

Lisa S had to move out of her first house fast because something in it did not want her there. The blessing she asked for ended with "maybe you should get therapy." Lisa W is a ghost hunter who carries salt in her car and was raised to believe she's the boss of the ghosts. Together they tackle the question they completely disagree on: your house is haunted. What are you going to do about it?

Real haunted house stories, signs a house is haunted, whether burning sage actually works, what to do if someone pulls out a Ouija board, and why your stress might make a haunting worse. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or you just sleep with the lights on, you're not alone.

00:00 What Would You Do If Your House Was Haunted?
00:32 My Dad Taught Me I'm the Boss of the Ghosts
04:10 Someone Pulls Out a Ouija Board. Do You Stay?
04:35 Signs a House Is Haunted (and Why Antique Stores Make Me Dizzy)
07:51 A Neighbor Died. Then I Saw Her in Her Kitchen Window
11:47 My First House After My Divorce Was Haunted
14:41 "Mom, There's Three Men at the Foot of the Bed"
16:36 I Asked for a House Blessing. They Told Me to Get Therapy
18:09 What My 5-Year-Old Caught on His iPad
18:53 "How Are You Living Here?" We Moved Out in One Day
21:02 Why Divorce and Stress Can Make a Haunting Worse
23:17 Does Burning Sage Actually Get Rid of Ghosts?
23:56 My Haunted Office Building
24:31 Why I Made My Husband Promise to Dock the Boat
25:51 Is It Rats or Is It Ghosts?
28:54 The Security Guard's Fourth-Floor Ghost Story
32:06 What Is a Ghost, Really?
35:11 If a Ghost Hunter Starts With "Demon," Fire Them
35:50 Our High Fives
38:16 How to Get Rid of a Ghost: Our Honest Answers
40:39 Why I Carry Salt in My Car

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