Have you ever confused spiritual busyness with genuine connection to Christ? In this profound conversation, Morgan and Joel challenge the common misconception that checking religious boxes equates to spiritual growth. Drawing from personal experiences, including Morgan's recent church talk, they explore what it truly means to "abide in Christ."

The hosts paint a powerful picture of Christ not as a vacation home we visit occasionally, but as the permanent foundation upon which we build our entire lives. "You can't just pick up and go and leave and find a new foundation and think your building's going to stand," Joel explains. "Your life is your building. Christ is your foundation." This perspective shift invites listeners to reconsider how they approach their relationship with the divine.

One of the most compelling insights offered is the backward way many approach spiritual growth. Rather than trying to improve ourselves and then coming to Christ, Morgan suggests, "I shouldn't be telling myself I'm going to go be better. It's like I'm actually going to go be closer to Christ and Christ will make me better." This simple yet profound reframing transforms the spiritual journey from one of exhausting self-improvement to one of relationship and receiving.

The conversation also addresses why people sometimes blame God during difficult times, and how shifting our question from "What more do I need to do?" to "How can I better connect with Christ right now?" can completely transform our spiritual experience. In a world where stories of faith departures dominate, Morgan and Joel call for more testimonies of those who choose to stay—who find in Christ not just occasional comfort but a permanent dwelling place.

Whether you're wrestling with doubts, feeling spiritually exhausted, or simply seeking a deeper connection with Christ, this episode offers refreshing perspectives that will help you move beyond religious performance into authentic relationship. What might change in your life if you truly made Christ your permanent dwelling place?

The question of polygamy remains one of the most challenging topics in Latter-day Saint history. In this thought-provoking episode, Joel and Morgan welcome back Ross (the Latter-day Avenger) to tackle the resurgence of "polygamy denial" on social media—the claim that Joseph Smith never practiced plural marriage and that polygamy was invented by Brigham Young after Joseph's death.

This fascinating conversation delves into the substantial historical evidence for Joseph Smith's practice of polygamy, while examining the complex purposes behind early plural marriage. The hosts explore how many of these unions functioned as "dynastic sealings" focused on creating eternal family connections rather than traditional marital relationships. They highlight that DNA evidence shows Joseph only had children with Emma, suggesting many marriages were ceremonial rather than conjugal.

Drawing connections to biblical precedents, the discussion examines how polygamy appears connected to establishing covenant people during dispensational shifts. Abraham, Jacob, and Moses all practiced plural marriage during pivotal moments in religious history—a pattern that continued with the restoration of the gospel through Joseph Smith.

Perhaps most compelling is the evidence of Joseph's reluctance to implement polygamy. According to multiple historical accounts, an angel with a sword had to command Joseph to proceed with the practice. As Ross points out, reading Richard Bushman's "Rough Stone Rolling" makes clear that polygamy brought Joseph nothing but trouble and conflict.

The conversation culminates in a powerful insight: when we face difficult gospel topics directly instead of retreating into denial, we create opportunities for profound spiritual growth. As Joel testifies, "It's better to remain in a difficult situation knowing that you're obeying God, than to live in an easy situation while being in defiance to the Lord." How might your own faith journey be strengthened by embracing rather than avoiding challenging questions?

A single social media post about the Trinity doctrine ignited a firestorm of theological debate, revealing how deeply our understanding of God's nature shapes our entire spiritual experience. Morgan and Joel dive headfirst into this controversy, exploring the profound differences between traditional Trinitarian views and the Latter-day Saint concept of the Godhead.

The conversation takes us through the historical development of Trinitarian thought, tracing its origins not to biblical authors but to later church councils where competing theological viewpoints were often resolved through political processes rather than revelation. This history sets the stage for examining why these distinctions matter beyond mere academic debate—they fundamentally shape how we relate to deity.

At the heart of this episode is a powerful question: How does our conception of God's nature affect our personal relationship with Him? When we view God the Father as an embodied being who truly understands our mortal experience rather than an incomprehensible essence, does that change how we pray? When we see Jesus Christ as a separate being who willingly sacrificed at His Father's request rather than as another manifestation of the same being, does that deepen our appreciation of the Atonement?

Through examining listener comments and scriptural passages, Morgan and Joel illuminate how the Godhead doctrine creates space for a more personal, relatable connection with deity. They explore how believing we are ontologically similar to God—that we are the same kind of being with divine potential—provides profound purpose that might be diminished when deity is placed in an entirely separate category of existence.

This episode isn't about criticizing other faiths but about appreciating how theological frameworks profoundly shape our spiritual journeys. Both hosts share powerful personal testimonies of how their understanding of the Godhead has fostered deep, meaningful relationships with Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost—relationships that have become foundational to their identities and faith.

Whether you're curious about theological differences or seeking to deepen your personal connection with deity, this thought-provoking discussion will leave you reflecting on how your understanding of God's nature shapes every aspect of your faith journey.