In part two of Michael Douglas' conversation with Michael Van Clarke, the discussion moves beyond hairdressing into the people, experiences and mindset that have shaped Michael's career. From working with celebrity clients including Davina McCall, Johnny Depp, Gwyneth Paltrow and Kate Bush, to life behind the scenes in television, fashion and film, Michael shares the stories that defined his journey and why he never followed the traditional salon owner path.

The conversation also explores creativity, confidence and personal growth, as Michael reflects on the lessons he's learned through success, failure and self-discovery. He discusses the power of asking better questions, overcoming self-doubt, finding purpose and why helping people feel good about themselves has become the driving force behind everything he does. Along the way, he shares memorable stories from fashion weeks, celebrity styling, working alongside industry legends and why the most rewarding part of his career has always been the human connection.

Blending humour, philosophy and decades of industry experience, this episode offers an honest and thought-provoking conversation about hairdressing, creativity, celebrity culture and building a life that's guided by purpose rather than prestige.

Follow Michael Van Clarke: @michaelvanclarke

Follow Michael Douglas: @mdlondon

CREDITS

Producer: Ben Lifton

Editor: Big Little Content

Sound Engineer: TYX Studios

In the final part of Michael Van Clarke's conversation with award-winning salon owner and entrepreneur Ken Picton, the focus shifts from hairdressing to business innovation and building a brand that extends far beyond the salon. Ken shares how a passion for food, wine and hospitality inspired him to transform his business with the addition of an award-worthy restaurant, delicatessen and bar, creating a unique customer experience unlike anything else in the industry.

He explains why some of his biggest business decisions have come during periods of uncertainty, including launching new ventures during recessions and after Covid, and why investing when others hold back has helped his business continue to grow. Ken also discusses the importance of creating memorable experiences, building a lifestyle brand, and the thinking behind his newest venture, Mr Picton, a dedicated men's grooming concept designed to redefine male hairdressing and grooming.

The conversation explores branding, leadership, customer experience and long-term business strategy, as Ken reflects on succession planning, evolving a personal brand and creating businesses built around genuine passion rather than chasing trends. Packed with entrepreneurial insight and practical lessons, this episode is an inspiring listen for salon owners, business leaders and anyone looking to build a brand with longevity.

Follow Michael Van Clarke: @michaelvanclarke

Follow Michael Douglas: @kenpicton

CREDITS

Producer: Ben Lifton

Editor: Big Little Content

Sound Engineer: TYX Studios

From winning a UK breakdancing championship to becoming one of Britain's best known TV hairdressers, entrepreneur and educator, Michael Douglas has built a career that's anything but ordinary. In this episode of Heads Together, he joins Michael Van Clarke to share the stories, decisions and setbacks that shaped his journey through the hair industry.

Michael reflects on his early days in hairdressing, how teaching led him into television, and why he believed hair deserved the same mainstream attention as cooking and interior design. He also shares the story behind launching his own haircare brand, the reality of raising investment, navigating business partnerships, surviving Covid, and the mindset needed to build a successful company.

The conversation explores creativity, entrepreneurship, content creation, social media, branding, business resilience and why the best businesses solve real customer problems. Michael also explains why he believes hairdressing is about far more than hair, discussing confidence, self image and the role hair professionals play in helping people feel their best.

Follow Michael Van Clarke: @michaelvanclarke

Follow Michael Douglas: @mdlondon

CREDITS

Producer: Ben Lifton

Editor: Big Little Content

Sound Engineer: TYX Studios