We’re less than a week from Christmas, which means it was the perfect time to sneak away with our best buddy and former co-host Sean Jackson for a secret Sunday podcast.

Tucked away in Doug’s studio, we popped a few fancy bottles to celebrate Sean’s 50th birthday and caught up with him as much as we could in an hour (it’s never enough time). Tune in to hear about Sean’s birthday surprise and, considering the recent news of Rogue’s closure, catch a few of his favorite stories from the Issaquah taproom and even some Dead Guy hat lore.

Have a safe and wonderful holiday, y’all. Thank you a million times over for listening to us every week. We’re going to take a couple of weeks off to reset for the new year, but stay tuned for some great upcoming episodes. Much love!

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As odd as it may sound, there really is an art behind making smoothie sours taste good. Like anything else, there are good and bad examples, and often the difference is the thoughtfulness of the ingredients. That’s why we wanted to bring in our buddy, Odd Otter head brewer, to help answer the age-old question: “How much soft serve ice cream is too much to add to your beer?”

In all seriousness, Shelby is doing great work at Tacoma’s own Odd Otter Brewing Company, with a thoughtful emphasis on the “odd.” Everything from graf co-ferments with a Belgian dubbel base to peppermint white chocolate sour with winter spices.

Tune in to hear the details and inspiration behind these well-executed beers and to catch up on how the brewery is doing after reopening under new ownership with a new direction.

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We think it’s high time we took this interview gig a little more seriously, so we figured we might as well get some high-quality interview questions locked and loaded for future episodes, but we need to make sure they’re up to snuff first.

This week, we are joined by the effortlessly dashing Erik Dahlin of The Odom Corp. to field test some of our new, totally professional interview questions. After years in the beer distribution game, Erik has tasted droves of world-class pints and traveled to many historic breweries, making wonderful memories and collecting excellent stories along the way.

Tune in to find out which beers he holds in the highest regard and which ones he might encourage extraterrestrial visitors to consume “bottoms up” style.

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Less than a week out from everyone’s favorite chaotic family holiday—the annual turkey-fueled collision of joy, gravy, and emotional turbulence—we decided it was the perfect time to sit down with our buddy R.J. Adler, from Sierra Nevada Brewing Co., to discuss pairing beer with Thanksgiving dinner.

Naturally, we lasted about 253 seconds before veering completely off the rails and dedicating the entire conversation to one of our mutual obsessions: the glorious, tart, ruby-kissed wonder that is a Flanders red ale. Why is it the perfect beer to bring to any family gathering? Why does it soothe generational trauma? Why does it pair so beautifully with turkey, stuffing, awkward political comments, and the profound desire to take a walk around the block for “fresh air”?

We go deep. Maybe too deep. Maybe just deep enough.

Tune in for laughs, actual usable beer pairing tips, and our unapologetic campaign to make Rodenbach the unofficial beer of Thanksgiving 2025.

Thank you for listening, for supporting the podcast, and for bringing good beer to the table—no matter what your family throws at you. Have a beautiful turkey day, friends.

See you all in December!

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Time for a good old-fashioned debate. This week, we dive into the now-infamous New York Times opinion piece by famed journalist Mark Robichaux, “Wacky Labels and Silly Names are Killing Craft Beer”.

With a few prominent craft beer industry leaders already having responded, we figured we should throw our expert opinions out there as well, just in case. With Bethany being a professional brewer for much of her career, Ron and Phaedra coming at it from the retail perspective, Matt as a distributor, and Doug as an avid consumer, we share our takes and see where things make sense and what parts fall flat, like those half-cans of Rainier you used to save for breakfast.

Crack a fresh one, tune in, and let us know your thoughts in the comments. Are silly names and wacky labels really killing craft beer?

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We’re back, baby! The Washington Brewers Guild‘s 2025 Washington Craft Beer Summit took place this week in SeaTac, Washington, bringing nearly 100 Washington breweries together under one roof to meet with vendors, attend expert lectures, and crown the first-ever Washington Craft Beer Hall of Fame inductees. We posted up for a live recording on the showroom floor again this year and had the chance to hang with a few friends.

First was Bryson Foster, a fellow Tacoman who owns and operates Foster’s Creative, a local digital marketing business. Bryson filled us in on his Summit lecture regarding the future of marketing in the craft beer world.

We were also joined by Larry Rock again. Since we last talked, this local craft beer legend retired from Reuben’s Brews for all of one month before joining forces with his long-time buddy Mike Sutherland to help sell the award-winning White Bluffs beer.

Tune in for some tips on marketing in the world of AI, and catch up with Larry to see what has him excited about his recent work.

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Happy Halloween, Grit & Grain family! This week, we thought we’d dress up as a super serious political podcast. Just kidding! But we were indeed joined by the 10th District Representative and former Tacoma mayor,...

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It’s beer and cheese week! Beer industry veteran, professional cheesemonger, and German language educator, Ericka Baird, joined us this week to talk about everything beer and cheese.

We picked up a variety of cheeses, from real Wisconsin curds to the world-famous Rogue River Bleu, and tried them alongside a few beers chosen by Matt. Ericka and Matt walk us through the pairings, and we see what works and what doesn’t. And of course, Ericka drops an insane amount of history with every new creamery we explored.

Open a fresh Kraft Single and tune in to learn why this was Ron and Doug’s favorite week ever, which cheese style smells like an actual foot, and why drinking directly from a fondue fountain is completely justified.

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