Traditional annual reviews fail because they focus on output alone, leaving companies wondering why growth stalls. Rob Levin interviews leadership coach Mike Goldman on a practical alternative: the Talent Density framework—treating people growth as profit growth's true driver. Learn to evaluate performance beyond theater, separate real results from "busy," and implement a quarterly leadership cadence that builds resilience without bottlenecking HR.

About the Guest

Mike Goldman is a leadership team coach with 35+ years of experience helping organizations build high-performing teams, from global brands like Disney and Verizon to small and midsize businesses. He's the USA Today bestselling author of The Strength of Talent and a TEDx speaker who regularly presents to business leadership communities like Vistage and EO. He also hosts the Better Leadership Team Show, where he goes deep on building teams that drive durable growth.

Episode Highlight

"Unclear expectations don't lead to unclear results—they lead to unacceptable results."

Actionable Insights

1. Stop confusing "performance" with output alone, score productivity and culture fit: Stop rating high-output people who damage team culture. Make trade-offs visible. [06:28]
2. Run a quarterly talent assessment as a leadership team (not as secret HR paperwork): CEO and direct reports calibrate together on "level one down"—eliminates bias and vague labels. [10:00]
3. Move faster on low culture fit than low productivity (because it's rarely coachable): Culture gaps rarely coach out; productivity gaps develop. Test: coachable vs. fakeable. [14:26]

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More About Mike Goldman

Check out Mike Goldman and The Strenght of Talent
Connect with Mike on LinkedIn.
Grab your copy of The Strength of Talent.

Other Resources

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Out now! The New Talent Playbook: The Ultimate Guide to Building Your Dream Team 📕 Available on Amazon or visit thenewtalentplaybook.com and get the free scorecard.

In this episode, Rob Levin (Founder of Work Better Now and author of The New Talent Playbook) distills the biggest concepts from the book into one clear framework, and introduces a key reframe: this isn't a temporary "talent crisis," it's a permanent talent shift. Rob breaks down what the top ~15% of companies do differently to attract and retain great people, why culture and core values are the foundation, how to fix retention and hiring for today's reality, why global/remote expands your options dramatically, and how AI makes great talent even more important.

Episode Highlight

"Talent deserves the same strategic attention you give revenue."

Actionable Insights

• Stop waiting for "back to normal", treat this as a permanent talent shift: In your next leadership meeting, make the language change explicit ("temporary crisis" → "structural shift"), then pick 1–2 systems you will redesign this quarter.
  
  • Read: 88% of Small Businesses Can't Find Qualified People. The Other 12% Are Doing This.

• Win candidates before they apply: clean up your employer brand (starting with Glassdoor): Go look at your Glassdoor profile today, read the reviews honestly, decide whether you have a culture problem or a visibility problem (or both), and ask 3–5 current employees for honest reviews if your culture is solid.
  
  • Read: Before Job Candidates Apply, They Check This. Have You?

• Retention that compounds: install a simple recognition + upskilling cadence: Launch one lightweight program this month (values-based recognition like the W Awards, an upskilling stipend + time, or a connection ritual like "story time").
  • Read: 3 Simple (and Proven) Ways to Turn a Good Team Into a Great One

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Out now! The New Talent Playbook: The Ultimate Guide to Building Your Dream Team 📕 Available on Amazon or visit thenewtalentplaybook.com and get the free scorecard.

In this episode, Rob Levin sits down with Andrew Schenkel, founder of Double Play Marketing and Sales, to explore what it really takes to scale a marketing agency through intentional team design, systems, and leadership. Andrew shares how his approach to talent has evolved since launching the business in 2020, why EOS and DISC became foundational tools, and how nearshore talent and AI are shaping the future of his company. This conversation is a practical look at how great talent decisions drive great business outcomes.

About the Guest

Andrew Schenkel is an entrepreneur with a strong background in marketing and sales. He founded Double Play Marketing and Sales in 2020 as an outsourced marketing department and lead generation partner for growth-oriented companies. His agency takes a data-driven approach to building brand awareness, generating qualified leads, and delivering measurable ROI.

Episode Highlight

"In the beginning, it's who can we afford. As you grow, it becomes about having the right people in the right seats."

Actionable Insights

• Hire for clarity, not convenience: Early-stage teams often wear many hats. As companies mature, clearly defined roles and expectations become critical to sustainable growth. [01:55]
• Treat nearshore talent as true team members: Integrating nearshore professionals into meetings, PTO policies, and professional development strengthens performance and culture. [11:41]
• AI works best as an assistant, not a replacement: From process automation to content support, AI enhances efficiency—but still requires human judgment and creativity. [14:01]

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More About Andrew Schenkel

Check out Double Play Agency
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn.

Other Resources

Check out EOS and DISC Personality Assessment

More About Rob Levin & WorkBetterNow

Like this show? Click on over and subscribe to our YouTube channel!
Follow Rob Levin on Substack.
Out now! The New Talent Playbook: The Ultimate Guide to Building Your Dream Team 📕 Available on Amazon or visit thenewtalentplaybook.com and get the free scorecard.