The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit
Business leaders weigh in on what good governance really means.
In this special episode, Christine Janesko shares additional insight from her interviews for Internal Auditor magazine’s “Fortune Favors the Wise” article. Hear expert takes on balancing governance, avoiding regulatory pitfalls, and internal audit’s role in keeping organizations on track.

HOST:
Catie Brown
Associate Manager Producer, Content Development, The IIA

GUESTS:
Christine Janesko
Senior Editor, Internal Auditor magazine, The IIA

Don Sinko, CPA
Retired Chief Integrity Officer, Cleveland Clinic

Tom Sanglier, CIA, CPA, CRMA
Chief Audit Executive, Leidos

Carolynn Chalmers,
CEO, Good Governance Academy

Lawrence Leung, CIA, CPA, CRMA
Senior Director, Legal Entity Controlling, Adidas

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00–00:00:43]
• The Power of Structure and Independence [00:00:56–00:03:10]
• From Reporting to Results [00:03:16–00:05:05]
• CAE as the Board’s Secret Weapon [00:05:14–00:08:03]
• Measuring Maturity with ISO 37004 [00:08:13–00:10:12]
• Avoiding Governance Fatigue [00:10:27–00:12:29]
• Governance vs. Innovation: A Goldilocks Problem [00:12:32–00:16:17]
• Closing Thoughts [00:16:20–00:17:02]

THE IIA RELATED CONTENT:
Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• 2025 Governance, Risk & Controls Conference
• “Fortune Favors the Wise,” Internal Auditor
• Governance Resource Center
• Toolkit: Governance

Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more.

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