Gen Z is beginning to step into cross-cultural work, and their formation is markedly different from generations before them. In this episode, Amy and Bernie talk with Katy White about who Gen Z is, how a post-Christian, digital-native upbringing shapes them, and the unique strengths and challenges they bring to the field. Together, they explore what current leaders and organizations need to understand—and how mentoring, funding, leadership, and discipleship models may need to shift for this emerging generation.

Book: Mobilizing Gen Z by Jolene Erlacher and Katy White

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Amy and Bernie are joined today by author and public theologian, Joash Thomas to discuss his most recent book The Justice of Jesus. This is a life-giving conversation about the relationship between justice and our jobs as cross-cultural workers in a gentle, Jesus-focussed, and hope-filled way.

Joash Thomas on Substack: https://joashpthomas.substack.com/ and his website https://www.joashpthomas.com/

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In today’s episode, play therapist David Floge of Valeo Counseling joins Amy and Bernie to share what play therapy entails and why it's transformative for Third Culture Kids (TCKs). Our conversation explores practical approaches, parental involvement, and the importance of patience, creativity, and attunement when supporting cross-cultural children.

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In this episode, we are back with Amy Farley. She shares her journey to becoming the lead pastor of an international church and discusses the unique challenges and rewards women face in leadership, both in Western and cross-cultural contexts. In this candid conversation, Amy offers encouragement and practical insights for women pursuing leadership roles in ministry, highlighting the importance of embracing gifts, strengths, and staying true to calling.

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Amy and Bernie chat with author Karen Swallow Prior about the complexities of calling in cross-cultural and ministry contexts. They explore how calling evolves, break down false divides between sacred and secular work, and present a liberating framework centered on truth, goodness, and beauty – all drawn from Karen's book, You Have a Calling.

Karen’s Substack: The Priory

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In a replay of the conversation from last year, Amy and Bernie discuss the importance of reflection and preparation for cross-cultural workers with guest Michele Zintz. Michele is a long-time user of the annual Reflect and Prepare Packet, and she shares her experiences using the Global Trellis this resource and the help it provides for honoring the past year and setting goals for the year ahead.

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From December 17–23, Global Trellis: The Podcast offers seven short, five-minute episodes shaped by the O Antiphons and the song O Come, O Come, Emmanuel. Through Scripture, song, and reflection, each day lingers on an attribute of Christ, building quiet anticipation as we walk toward Christmas.

We conclude this O Antiphon journey with O With Us Is God, rejoicing in the promise of God’s nearness and abiding presence.

Thank you to the Invitation Project featuring Whitney Ohman Costa on vocals for recording the full version of the song. You can listen to the entire song on Spotify or Youtube.

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From December 17–23, Global Trellis: The Podcast offers seven short, five-minute episodes shaped by the O Antiphons and the song O Come, O Come, Emmanuel. Through Scripture, song, and reflection, each day lingers on an attribute of Christ, building quiet anticipation as we walk toward Christmas.

In this episode, we focus on O King of the Nations, proclaiming Christ as the cornerstone who unites what has been divided.

Thank you to the Invitation Project featuring Whitney Ohman Costa on vocals for recording the full version of the song. You can listen to the entire song on Spotify or Youtube.

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