In this episode of BURNT, hosts Michelle Glogovac and Lauren Lehman Carter sit down for a powerful conversation about political engagement, media literacy, and the impact of government shutdowns on everyday Americans. Together, they unpack how propaganda and political messaging shape public perception and why critical thinking is essential in today’s divided media landscape.

The discussion delves into the intersections of faith, empathy, and social justice, highlighting the courage it takes to admit when we’re wrong and the importance of community support in politically tense times. Michelle and Lauren remind listeners to seek out the helpers — to stay informed, stay kind, and stay active in the ongoing fight for justice, understanding, and human connection.

What We're Talking About...

• Political engagement is essential to sustaining a healthy democracy.
• The government shutdown has a major impact on federal employees and working families.
• Propaganda and misinformation are increasingly used to shift political blame and divide voters.
• Practicing critical thinking helps cut through biased media narratives.
• True faith aligns with empathy, justice, and service to others.
• Admitting mistakes shows maturity, growth, and a willingness to learn.
• Community support provides strength during times of political tension and uncertainty.
• Fear and polarization often prevent empathy — but awareness can break that cycle.
• The influence of political propaganda is more visible and dangerous than ever.
• In difficult times, finding hope, helpers, and human connection keeps us moving forward.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Work for Democracy

02:58 Government Shutdown and Political Accountability

05:55 Propaganda and Political Messaging

08:46 Critical Thinking and Questioning Information

11:46 Fear, Power, and Community

14:39 Christianity, Empathy, and Human Rights

17:51 Violence and Tensions in Society

20:55 The Importance of Grace and Understanding

23:54 Combatting Propaganda and Staying Engaged