Family-owned businesses face a unique challenge as they grow. The legacy, the relationships and the history are strengths, but they also make senior hiring more complex than most leaders admit.

• The importance of preparation, alignment and culture mapping before you go to market
• What good succession planning and market entry look like from a people perspective
• How leaders can build long-term relationships with talent and search partners, not just run one-off processes

It is a practical, honest conversation about setting executives up for success in complex, family-owned environments and using people strategy as a lever for growth rather than an afterthought.

Links from the Episode:

• linkedin.com/in/michaelfieldcom
• https://www.evettfield.com/

This episode was brought to you by:

Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au

Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work.

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In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with leadership adviser Byron Rienstra, who has spent more than 25 years working alongside CEOs, boards and founders across Asia and Australia. Together they dive into the uncomfortable, essential questions most leadership books avoid: the difference between management and leadership, why high IQ is often overrated, and why so many “successful” leaders quietly avoid the truth.

Byron shares brutal, career-defining lessons, including the global remuneration committee “disaster” that blew up in his face and changed the way he leads forever. He unpacks why promoting the smartest technician often fails, how ego and status make senior leaders less open to feedback over time, and why the real work of leadership is sense making, courage and creating followership, not being the hero with all the answers.

Links from the Episode:

• linkedin.com/in/byron-rienstra
• bpartnersgroup.com

This episode was brought to you by:

Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au

About the Hosts

Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work.

Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522

Please contact us if you:

• Want to come on board as a show sponsor
• Are interested in joining the show as a co-host
• Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better

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In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Tamara Somers, the global head of Sustainability & Impact at Xero - one of the most influential roles shaping how millions of small businesses navigate sustainability, compliance, and climate action.

Fresh off a whirlwind trip to the UK, Tamara dives into the realities of doing sustainability work at scale: the trade-offs, the pragmatism, and why progress matters more than perfection. She unpacks the growing pressure on SMEs to provide sustainability data, how Xero is helping simplify carbon accounting through its partnership with Someday, and why AI is both a massive accelerator and a misunderstood target of criticism.

Links from the Episode:

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/somerstamara/

This episode was brought to you by:

Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au

Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work.

Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522

Please contact us if you:

• Want to come on board as a show sponsor
• Are interested in joining the show as a co-host
• Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better

Produced by The Podcast Boss