Ever notice how exhausting it is to do things out of obligation? We spent the last few months systematically removing every "should" from our lives, and it completely transformed everything.

This conversation covers: why Elle got off social media and what happened to her anxiety, Cam's journey from OCD-level routines to intuitive living, how we handle relationships without obligation, the surprising reason most friendships fall apart, why being "selfish" is actually the most selfless thing you can do, and what happened when we started honoring only what feels genuinely exciting.

We're not coaches telling you what to do, we're just two people experimenting with what it means to be completely free. Join us for this unscripted exploration of modern life, relationships, and finding your own path.

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✨ Cam’s socials:⁠ ⁠https://stan.store/thecameronhogan

Who are these people?

👀Cameron Hogan⁠⁠ is an intuitive healer who’s coached dozens of high-performers to shed their limiting beliefs and awaken. Cameron also writes (he published 100⁠ ⁠newsletters⁠⁠ in 100 days!), hosts men’s circles and retreats for men, plays NBA2K, speaks at conferences, and hosts a monthly gratitude call alongside Elle called⁠ ⁠Great Morning⁠⁠.⁠⁠

Elle Beecher⁠⁠ helps people build confidence, attract love, and find soul-nourishing community. Elle ⁠⁠writes⁠⁠ every day, hosts a monthly gratitude call⁠⁠ alongside Cam (230+ so far), and consults companies on culture and community building. Elle leads multiple communities – for women in love, deep talk lovers, and spiritual seekers. Elle worked at Meta for 7 years and was named Forbes 30 Under 30 for her work with⁠ ⁠The Board Walks⁠⁠

.💌 CHAPTERS

0:00 Introduction: Packers Blanket and Setting the Vibe

1:17 Meeting With Psychic Susie and Following Intuition

7:06 Living in Our Own World Without External Noise

11:52 Elle Gets Off Social Media - The Immediate Difference Cam Noticed

17:11 Social Media as "Clocking In" and Consuming Consciousness Soup

27:29 Screen Time as the New Secret Life

32:24 When Actions Come From Coping Mechanisms vs Pure Joy

38:30 Where Does Your Energy Go? ChatGPT vs Creating for Others

43:33 Our Next Level: Allowing Ourselves to Fully Express the Journey

49:31 When You Literally Can't Find Energy for Anything Misaligned

54:37 Cam's Lifelong Search for the Right Way to Live

1:00:04 Rejecting All the Templates - "All You Motherfuckers Are Wrong"

1:07:52 Creating a New Template for Modern Life and Relationships

1:13:11 Being Proud of Yourself and Celebrating What You've Accomplished

1:20:26 Letting Go of Lying and Exaggerating Completely

1:29:42 Honoring Your Highest Preference in All Relationships

1:45:00 The Honesty of "When It Feels Right" in Relationships

1:52:56 Using This Space for Pride Infusion and Celebration

1:55:00 Pause Here: What Are YOU Proud of Yourself For?

1:57:21 New Style of Recording - Just Riffing and Talking