Journalist and author Sonali Kolhatkar joins Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas on DeProgram to discuss her new book Breaking ICE and the growing national fight over immigration enforcement. The conversation tackles ICE raids and detention, surveillance technology, undocumented immigration, American workers and wages, national borders and sovereignty, crime, labor shortages, and the role communities are playing in resisting federal immigration enforcement. Ted and Jamarl press Kolhatkar on whether nations have the right to control their borders and what meaningful immigration enforcement should look like, while Kolhatkar argues that the United States' current approach is increasingly harmful to immigrants, citizens, and local communities alike. After the interview, producer Robby West joins the Q&A and strongly challenges several claims made during the discussion—particularly arguments surrounding immigration, American wages, sovereignty, and whether the guest received enough pushback from the hosts. It becomes a considerably more heated conversation from there. Topics include: ICE and immigration enforcement, Breaking ICE, undocumented immigration, American wages and workers, border sovereignty, immigrant crime, surveillance and license-plate readers, labor shortages, community resistance, Donald Trump's immigration policies, and the economic consequences of immigration. DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas brings together political commentary, disagreement, debate, and long-form conversations about the issues driving American politics.
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