People will really sleep with their best friends spouse and then kill the friend and marry the spouse instead of going to therapy. In this special CrimeCon 2025 episode we talk about the documentary Mr and Mrs Murder and ask the big questions: What would these wild couples have looked like in couples counseling? Would it have prevented the tragic ending they came to? And what was Blythe's deal? Join us for thought experiments, couples counseling tools, and psychological profiling (allegedly) of the perpetrators.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In this episode we talk through (spoilers ahead) the Netflix show Unknown Number and ask the big questions. Namely: WTF? WTAF?! and What the hell is wrong with you, Kendra?! We discuss histrionic behavior, munchausen-by-proxy in the digital age, and if and how it's possible to come back from a big, big screw-up. Some people will ruin their kids lives instead of going to therapy. Don't be one of them!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Inspired by the Netflix documentary Stalking Samantha, this episode is a deep dive into the real-world implications of stalking. We'll discuss the immense courage required by the victim to come forward and face her abuser, and the infuriating roadblocks she encountered in the legal system. Our conversation also focuses on the psychological traits that drive stalkers, and why their behavior can be so difficult for law enforcement and the courts to properly address. This episode highlights the critical need for a more comprehensive and compassionate approach to protecting survivors of stalking

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.