It started with a babysitting gig in North Ogden, but behind the closed doors of the Millerberg home, a sinister cycle of grooming was already in motion. This week, we examine the tragic 2011 death of 16-year-old Alexis Rasmussen. We dissect the drug-fueled abuse that led to her overdose, the shocking decision by the perpetrators to dump her body like 'trash,' and the legal battle that eventually put Eric Millerberg behind bars. We also take a hard look at the role of his wife, Dea Millerberg—her complicity, her trial, and the debate over how much culpability a partner bears in a crime they helped cover up.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

We’re officially back in Colorado after a whirlwind weekend in Las Vegas for CrimeCon 2026! This episode is a bit different—we’re setting the case files aside to talk about the real highlight of the convention: meeting all of you. From the listeners who stopped by to share their own stories to the fellow creators and experts who made this trip unforgettable, we are walking away with a full heart. Tune in as we share our favorite memories from the floor, the lessons we learned, and a massive thank you to everyone who made this trip so special.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

We’re officially back from CrimeCon 2026, and to be honest, we need a break from the heavy stuff. This week’s mini-episode is a palate cleanser. We’re diving into the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to criminal genius—from the bank robber who thought lemon juice made him invisible, to barefoot bandits, to people who just can't seem to avoid googling their plans. Join us for a quick, light look at the criminals who made us laugh, facepalm, and wonder how they ever thought they’d get away with it.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In 2018, seven-year-old Kayden Mancuso was murdered by her father during court-ordered, unsupervised visitation—despite repeated safety warnings from her mother. This tragedy sparked a legislative revolution. Today, we break down 'Kayden’s Law': what it is, how it’s fundamentally changing custody courts, and why it’s a necessary tool in identifying homicide risk. We explore the shift toward mandatory judicial training on domestic violence and why a history of abuse must now supersede the default 'presumption of shared parenting.'"

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

You're dating a new person. Your firends love (or hate) them way more than you think they should.

The new man in your life started off so promising, but one day the mask of perfection slips.

There's something "off" about your new girlfriend, but every time you try to confront it, you come out looking like the crazy one.

If any of this sounds familiar, tune in and listen as we discuss some basic signs that the person you're dating might actually be a psychopath.

And check out Jeannine's new book, "Psychopaths in the Wild: A Field Guide"

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Domestic violence isn’t always physical abuse; sometimes, it’s a terrifying display of coercive control that ends in a fatal crash. Today, we bridge the gap between toxic relationship dynamics and the link between suicidality and homicidality. We look at how Mackenzie Shirilla’s case fits into a broader pattern of 'if I can’t have it, nobody can' mentality. We also weigh in on the national debate sparked by The Crash: how do we teach our children the value of life when they seem convinced they are above the consequences of taking it? This is a deep dive into the intersection of adolescent impulsivity, forensic evidence, and the lack of parental accountability.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Join us this week as we talk a little bit more about our backgrounds, how we got here, and why we do the work we do

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

When the statutory criteria for an AMBER Alert forces police to wait, minutes can mean the difference between life and death. Today, we look at the trial and sentencing of Tanner Horner for the capital murder of Athena Strand. We analyze the failed defense strategies presented by his legal team in the spring of 2026—including mitigating pleas regarding autism spectrum disorder and childhood trauma—and explore why the jury rejected a life sentence. Crucially, we dive into how Athena's mother transformed her unimaginable grief into legislative action, pushing through Texas’s 'Athena Alert' law to protect future children.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.