In this conversation, Michelle Mace Curran, a combat veteran and former F-16 fighter pilot, shares her journey from a shy child with diverse aspirations to becoming a lead solo pilot for the Air Force Thunderbirds. She discusses the influences that shaped her career, the challenges she faced as a female pilot, and the importance of resilience and performance in overcoming obstacles. Michelle offers valuable advice for young women aspiring to enter male-dominated fields, emphasizing the need to focus on personal excellence and the meritocracy of performance. In this conversation, Ken shares his experiences as an F-16 pilot, including the physical challenges of flying at high G-forces, the nerves of his first solo flight, and the transition from a military career to the business world. He discusses the importance of inspiring the next generation through children's books and the significance of his call sign, MACE, which reflects his journey and experiences in aviation.

Takeaways

• Michelle's childhood experiences sparked her interest in aviation.

• The journey to becoming a fighter pilot was not straightforward for Michelle.

• Imposter syndrome is a common challenge for high-achieving individuals.

• Being the only woman in her pilot training class highlighted both support and bias.

• Michelle emphasizes the importance of focusing on performance over external perceptions.

• Young women should prioritize being the best at their jobs to gain respect.

• The military environment fosters a unique pressure to perform.

• Training for G-forces is a critical part of becoming a fighter pilot.

• Michelle's experiences in the Thunderbirds involved high G maneuvers regularly.

• Resilience and preparation are key to success in challenging fields. Flying at high G-forces is physically demanding and uncomfortable.

• The first solo flight is a nerve-wracking yet surreal experience.

• Transitioning from military to business requires a shift in mindset.

• Inspiring young girls through relatable children's books is impactful.

• The call sign MACE represents a rite of passage in aviation.

• Celebrating small wins is essential for personal fulfillment.

• Public speaking can be learned through practice and exposure.

• Feeling nervous is common, even for accomplished speakers.

• Growth comes from stepping outside of your comfort zone.

• Sharing personal stories can inspire others to pursue their dreams.

  
  

  Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Michelle Mace Curran

02:56 Early Influences and Aspirations

05:49 The Journey to Becoming a Fighter Pilot

09:14 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome

12:04 Challenges Faced as a Female Pilot

18:13 Advice for Young Women in Aviation

21:04 The Importance of Performance and Meritocracy

23:59 Experiences in Fighter Jet Training

30:47 Experiencing G-Forces in Flight

35:31 The First Solo Flight

38:57 Transitioning from Military to Business

52:19 Writing Children's Books and Inspiring the Next Generation

57:01 The Story Behind the Call Sign MACE