In today's episode, Dre and Alex discuss the different stages of motivation that bring about change. These stages come from the psychological tool therapists use known as Motivational Interviewing.

Change can be difficult, especially when we are aiming at our higher potential. We get tripped up in the process of change because part of us doesn't want to change, part of us wants to be the impulsive appetite that cannot be satiated. The other part of us wants to change and change for the better. We can foster that growth by understanding and connecting with our own motivation to change. With this knowledge, we are better equipped to bargain with the future about what we want. 

In this episode Dre and Alex take a break from the heavy conversations and just hang out for a bit talking about current events ranging from Elon's twitter battle to whether the Liver King is natty or not. Join us for a relaxed conversation and our take on the current state of the world. 

Thumos is the ancient Greek concept that doesnt translate that well into english. In short it is our spiritedness. Thumos enapsulates the motivation, emotion, volition, and desire - it is the passion that drives us, it is the righteous rage. 

In this episode Dre and Alex discuss thumos and how there is a pandemic of a dying thumos especially among men. We discuss what it is, how to tap into it, and the good that comes from it.