In this episode of Family Business Matters, host Cooper Biersach sits down with Amy Renkert-Thomas, a lawyer, educator, and former president of her family’s fifth-generation manufacturing business. Amy brings decades of experience in family enterprise governance and ownership to the conversation.

Together, they explore what governance really means, why it matters for family businesses, and how it evolves across generations.

Listeners will learn:

• • How family business governance differs from public company governance.
  • Why shared purpose and vision are essential for long-term success.
  • The role of owners and boards in creating clarity and alignment.
  • Practical steps for building governance structures that fit your family enterprise.

Whether you’re a founder wondering if governance is worth the effort or a next-generation leader preparing for the future, this episode offers actionable insights to help your family business thrive.

Featured Notes:

Engaged Ownership by Amy-Renkert Thomas

Building a Successful Family Business Board The Family Enterprise Center

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In this special two-guest episode, Lauren Willets Director of UNC Kenan-Flagler Business School’s The Family Enterprise Center, sits down with brothers Frankie Kelly IV (UNC BSBA ’14, UNC MAC '15)

and Stephen Kelly (UNC BSBA '17) to reminisce about their Carolina days as Family Enterprise students and lacrosse champions. They share candid insights on their early career paths, the decision to return to their family business, and the realities of navigating family dynamics. Listeners will enjoy hearing how these two brothers found their way back to Kelly Benefits—and what they’ve learned along the journey.

In this episode of Family Business Matters, host Amelia Renkert-Thomas

welcomes Nikin Shah, founding partner at Front Porch Venture Partners. Nikin shares his personal journey of growing up around his family’s business, co-leading it with his brother, and ultimately making the decision to sell.

Together, they explore the emotional, strategic, and financial dimensions of selling a family business — challenging the notion that selling equals failure. Nikin offers insights into how families can redeploy their capital post-sale and how the experience shaped his own path forward.

Whether you're a family business owner, advisor, or student of enterprise governance, this conversation offers valuable lessons on leadership, legacy, and letting go. Get Connected

Host: Steve Miller

In this episode of The Family Enterprise Center,host Steve Miller

sits down with Craig Stephenson, President and CEO of COC Properties, to explore the transformative power of good governance in family enterprises. Craig shares his leadership journey, the pivotal moment that led to formalizing their board, and how independent directors have helped unlock strategic potential and build trust among family shareholders. Listeners will gain insights into building a board that sees beyond the present and supports long-term value creation.

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Host: Cooper Biersach

In this episode, Cooper Biersach is joined by Chris Maslin — VP of HR and Organizational Development at The Biltmore Company—to unpack the essential elements of a strong family employment policy. Together, they explore how intentional policy design can reduce conflict, clarify roles, and support rising generation development. Listeners will walk away with a practical framework, key questions to ask, and strategies for balancing family harmony with business needs. Whether you're starting from scratch or updating an existing policy, this conversation offers both insights and action steps to help you build a policy that truly works.

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Cooper Biersach chats with Ted Wentz of Quadratec about his unique path back to the family business—one that began with launching his own venture first. Ted shares honest reflections on the gritty realities of entrepreneurship, earning your place in a family firm, and the importance of “doing the time” before stepping into leadership. They also dive into navigating relationships with family members and leading non-family employees in a way that’s both effective and inclusive.

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Cooper Biersach interviews Cathy Carroll—author of Hug of War and President of Legacy Onward—for a deep dive into polarity thinking. They explore how to move beyond either/or mindsets into both/and conversations that unlock new possibilities for families and leaders. The episode features real-life examples of common polarity tensions and how to navigate them, plus a walkthrough of polarity mapping with worksheets linked in the episode notes.

Episode Notes:

• The Family Enterprise Center
• Legacy Onward
• Hug of War
• Illustrated Polarity
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Cooper Biersach sits down with Josh Gentine (MBA ’13) to explore his path back to the family business, Sargento, and the parallel journey he’s built as a family business consultant. Josh shares insights on balancing multiple professional identities, fostering two-way communication across generations, and engaging next-gens in ways that reflect their passions and strengths—not just tradition. From personal experience to professional frameworks, this episode offers a thoughtful look at how clarity and curiosity can strengthen family enterprise for the long term.

Episode Notes

• Josh Gentine
• Cooper Biersach
• The Family Enterprise Center
• Get Connected