Many of us know Julia Roberts' portrayal of Erin Brockovich's fight for justice in that Oscar-winning film. In this episode, “Truth of the Matter” host Natasha Zouves sits down with the real Brockovich, the outspoken advocate, environmental crusader and best selling author.

In a deeply personal conversation, Brockovich opens up about the values her father instilled in her — the roots of her resilience and sense of justice. She shares what it’s like to carry the weight of so many environmental battles, candidly admitting to moments of depression and moral fatigue, and what keeps her going despite it all.

She also reflects on Julia Roberts’ iconic portrayal of her — what the film got right and how it shaped the public’s understanding of who she really is beyond the high heels and bold talk.

From poisoned water supplies to corporate accountability, Brockovich lays out the biggest environmental and human rights challenges facing Americans today — and why you don’t need a law degree to make a difference.

WATCH Erin Brockovich in Natasha's Emmy Nominated Special, “Growing Broke: Forever Chemicals in America’s Heartland"

“The Truth of the Matter" podcast goes beyond the headlines to uncover the hidden stories shaping our world. These stories are more than just hidden truths—they’re blueprints for navigating our own lives, offering rare insights into the human experience and lessons learned. You can find “The Truth of the Matter” wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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