Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the Perspectives on Precedent podcast. In this episode (Episode 4), our host, Stephanie Kunkel, dives into a candid, real-life discussion with Rebecca Foley, founder of Phoenix Growth Systems. The conversation starts with a relatable moment — a lost recording and the need to try again, which sets up an open, unguarded atmosphere for the rest of their talk.

Rebecca and Stephanie explore the shifting priorities in today’s unpredictable world, touching on personal safety, family, and how those concerns transform from month to month. The episode isn’t afraid to get heavy, moving into topics like rising fascism in the U.S., living under its shadow as a member of targeted communities, and the ways these issues touch down on daily life. Representation, activism, and hopes for change weave through the discussion. Stephanie and Rebecca also chat about the importance of seeking common ground, the subtle ways authoritarianism seeps in, and what real unity could look like amidst sharp divides.

About Rebecca:
Rebecca Foley is the owner of Phoenix Growth Systems, a bookkeeping service for small businesses, solo entrepreneurs, new business owners, and especially those from historically underestimated communities. Rebecca brings a personal lens to her work, shaped by her family’s experiences and her activism in social justice spaces.

Background Highlights:

• Bookkeeper for small and solo business owners

• Specialized focus on underserved and underestimated entrepreneurs

• Activist roots in response to rising fascism and inequity

• Currently relocating from the U.S. to Europe for her family's safety

Connect:

• Phoenix Growth Systems Website

• Rebecca Foley on LinkedIn