What happens when the life you built no longer fits the person you’re becoming?

In this episode of It’s Both, Nikki P sits down with Janice Holland, The Trauma Teacher — a therapist, mother, and woman who spent years in a marriage shaped by cultural expectations and spiritual ideals. Together, they unpack the deeply human experience of staying in something that looks “right” on the outside, but feels misaligned on the inside.

Janice shares her journey of navigating a conservative Christian upbringing, the weight of perfectionism, and the moment everything changed: when her husband came out as gay. What follows is an honest, layered conversation about identity, emotional health, and the messy, brave path of self-discovery.

They talk about:

- The tension between spiritual ideals and emotional truth

- The cost of ignoring your intuition

- Letting go of the fantasy to embrace reality

- How redemption can look different than we expect

🎧 Tune in for real talk, real healing, and a reminder that it’s okay for things to be both hard and freeing.

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