If I asked you to name the skills that make teachers successful outside of the classroom, you might say something like communication, or curriculum design, or organization, and those are real. We learn so many transferable skills as classroom teachers, but after working with tens of thousands of teachers who have successfully transitioned to expand their impact beyond the classroom. I've been thinking about what actually made the difference for them, and it's almost always not just a skill on the resume. It's really a behavior, a way of being, a way of moving through uncertainty. And so today we're not doing another teacher skills employers one episode. We're doing the one that nobody really explicitly asked for, but I think we all want, which is what do the people who actually make this transition successfully do differently?

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Alex Mozes is the CEO of Gravity Learning, a workforce development company using cognitive science to help managers actually change how they lead. Before Gravity, Alex founded Sheprd.io, a fractional operations consultancy helping companies solve scaling challenges from early‑stage through IPO. Nowadays he brings that same obsession with real‑world impact to Gravity Learning—building programs HR and L&D leaders can finally measure.

Alex and I talk about his journey from tech to the world of education and his mission to democratize it. We also talk about the importance of interactive learning and issues created by corporate environments.

For all links and resources mentioned in this episode, head to the show notes: https://www.educatorforever.com/episode198.

Jenelle Rawlins is the founder of Janelle Marie Web Design and Branding. She helps service businesses who have outgrown their current website and want to work with more premium clients. She specializes in custom logo design and website makeovers so that her clients have the confidence, authority and messaging.

In our discussion, we talk about how Janelle taught for 16 years before getting into web design. Then she gets deep into her work, from how she learned to do it to the aspects of website design that folks might not know. If you need a website for your new business, you’ll want to tune in.

For all links and resources mentioned in this episode, head to the show notes: https://www.educatorforever.com/episode197.