Well, we've covered all the songs on Echo now, so that can only mean one thing! That's right. It's time for John Paulsen to join me again to wrap up the twelfth album and dig into the vinyl age, whether fifteen songs is too many, and of course, a whole lot of back and forth about the album! As always, it was great to hang with John for an hour and dive into the darkest work in Tom's catalogue.

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