I will simply say that this is one of the most insightful, interesting and wonderful conversations I’ve ever had the privilege of being a part of.

Henry Shukman is a poet, writer and - more prominently in the last few decades - a zen Buddhist master. Henry runs the Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, New Mexico. He wrote his first book at the age of 19, subsequently publishing several award books of poetry, fiction and non-fiction. His work has been included in The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Sunday Times and The London Review of Books, among others. He has taught meditation at Google, Harvard Business School, United World College and many more.

His new app, The Way, is a fantastic tool for meditators of whatever amount of or lack of experience and I couldn’t recommend it highly enough. Likewise, his most recent book Original Love is a beautiful description of his approach to life and meditation.

Art of the Week:

The Peace of Wild Things by Wendell Berry (Henry’s pick)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Dan’s pick)

Artist Spotlight of the Week:

DH Lawrence (Henry’s pick)

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