Jo dives into the strange and science-meets-spiritual world of the paranormal with Dr. Heather Leigh Carroll‑Landon, a researcher and ghost investigator who blends metaphysical studies with boots-on-the-ground evidence. From seeing spirits as a child to using fidget spinners as ghost tools, Heather brings decades of personal experience, academic study, and wild stories.

She opens up about a powerful dream where a spirit warned her of a health crisis—and how that dream may have saved her life. Jo and Heather also unpack the creep factor of the Hat Man, why this shadowy figure shows up in multiple cultures, and how locations like ghost towns, petroglyph sites, and even ley lines might be tied to paranormal energy.

This episode is equal parts goosebumps and grounding. Whether you’re a believer or just paranormal-curious, you’ll walk away with chills and new questions.

• Opening riff – A Coke Zero wardrobe malfunction kicks things off
• Personal story – Dr Heather shares a dream-visitation from a spirit during a major health scare
• Guest’s big insight – Paranormal research needs rigor, data, and respect
• Behind-the-scenes moment – A mysterious miner appears to a museum guest—no one was there
• Why it matters – How belief, intention, and repeatable methods bridge science and spirit

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