🎤 Mic drop moment - my interview with Brittany Hernandez (Head of Legal Innovation at Gavel) is here!!

In this episode of the "Don't Suck at AI" podcast, Brittany goes over:

✅ Using generative AI for document automation

✅ Using AI directly within Microsoft Word to redline and negotiate documents quickly

✅ Ideal practice areas and use cases for AI tools

✅ How to leverage AI to its full potential in your #lawfirm

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• Silicon Valley Childhood: Laura Jeffords Greenberg was born and raised in Silicon Valley during the .com boom, leading to early and constant exposure to technology.
• Law School: Laura attended law school, initially with the goal of "changing the world."
• Sports Career Aspiration: After law school, she considered a career in sports due to her love for it as an athlete.
• Media Career: Laura then transitioned into the media industry.
• Red Bull: She worked at Red Bull, where she received pivotal career advice: to join a tech startup instead of a traditional media company due to the similar risk-taking and dynamic environment.
• VR Startup (First Lawyer): Following the advice, Laura joined a startup in the early days of VR (initially 360 video, later XR/AR) as their first lawyer.
• Cryptocurrency Involvement: The VR startup she worked for also ventured into cryptocurrency, requiring Laura to develop knowledge in securities law.
• Unity Technologies (First R&D Lawyer): Laura then moved to Unity Technologies, becoming the first lawyer to support their R&D department of over 900 engineers. This was a pivotal and fulfilling role where she felt a strong sense of belonging.
• Exposure to AI/Machine Learning at Unity: While at Unity, Laura supported projects involving machine learning and AI, working on cutting-edge deals.
• Layoff from Unity: Laura was laid off from Unity, marking what she believes was the beginning of a wave of layoffs at the company.
• General Counsel Role (Copenhagen): As an American living in Denmark, Laura took on a general counsel role.
• Emergence of ChatGPT: During her time as interim general counsel, ChatGPT was released.
• Experimentation and LinkedIn Content: Laura began experimenting with ChatGPT to improve her work efficiency and started sharing her experiences and insights on LinkedIn.
• Increased Interest and Invitations: Her LinkedIn content gained traction, leading to invitations to speak at conferences.
• Early Requests for AI Training: Law firms began reaching out to Laura, offering to pay her to teach their lawyers how to use AI tools like ChatGPT, which she initially found surprising.
• Discovery of Lawyers' Initial Struggles with AI: Through her training sessions, Laura realized that many lawyers, despite their expertise in information gathering, struggled with effectively prompting and using AI.
• Development of a Side Business: Laura started a side business focused on educating lawyers about AI while still working as in-house counsel.
• Joining Wordsmith AI: This journey ultimately led to Laura becoming the Head of the AI Legal Academy at Wordsmith AI, where her full-time role is now to teach lawyers how to leverage AI in their practice.
• Wordsmith AI Product Focus: Laura highlights the practical applications of Wordsmith AI for in-house counsel, its integration with common tech stacks (Slack, Notion, G Suite), the ability to connect knowledge bases, its use of multiple LLMs, and features like "first pass" agreement review.
• Challenges of Keeping Up with AI Developments: Laura discusses the rapid pace of AI advancements, making it challenging to stay informed and keep educational content current.
• Future Interest in AI Agents: Laura expresses a keen interest in the development and application of autonomous AI agents for legal tasks.

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1. Podcast Introduction: John Lindsey, the host of "Don't Suck at AI," introduces the episode topic: the difference between chatbots and AI agents.
2. Chatbot Explanation: Lindsey describes chatbots as operating on pre-programmed rules and decision trees. They are limited in their understanding, follow scripts, and struggle with nuances of language and remembering previous interactions. Common uses for chatbots include customer support, scheduling, and retail returns.
3. AI Agent Introduction: Lindsey shifts the focus to AI agents, emphasizing their more advanced nature due to large language models (LLMs) and techniques like natural language processing (NLP) and machine learning.
4. AI Agent Capabilities: AI agents are described as having contextual understanding, the ability to remember past interactions, and adapt their responses accordingly. They can make decisions and take actions autonomously, integrate with other systems, and perform tasks independently.
5. Analogy: Lindsey compares chatbots to receptionists and AI agents to personal assistants to illustrate their different roles and capabilities.
6. Benefits of AI Agents for Businesses: Lindsey discusses several areas where businesses might benefit from using AI agents, such as automating repetitive tasks, processing large amounts of data quickly, providing personalized experiences, and offering 24/7 availability.
7. Legal Tech Example: Lindsey pivots to focusing on the legal domain, specifically how AI agents could be used within a midsize law firm focused on intellectual property (IP) rights. The scenario involves monitoring trademarks and copyrights for potential infringements.
8. Legal Firm Benefits: The benefits for the law firm include proactive monitoring, minimized damage to client brands, increased efficiency, enhanced client confidence, and gaining a competitive advantage.
9. Off-the-Shelf AI Agent Examples: Lindsey mentions several commercially available AI agents:

• Reply Guy: An AI agent that finds the best places to mention your product online.
• Revid AI: An AI script generator that creates stories aligned with your audience.
• SEO Traffic Agent: An agent that does keyword research, writes articles, and links content for SEO purposes, syncing with various website platforms.

1. Podcast Conclusion: Lindsey concludes the podcast by emphasizing the potential of AI agents and encourages listeners to conduct their own research. He reviews the main topics covered and then wraps up the episode.

Cast of Characters:

• John Lindsey: The host of the "Don't Suck at AI" podcast. He guides the listeners through the discussion, explaining the differences between chatbots and AI agents, as well as exploring potential uses and examples of each within business and specifically within the legal tech industry. He also provides off-the-shelf AI tool examples. His tone is informative and engaging. He appears to be a leading voice in this particular space.

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The Arrival of DeepSeek: Does It SUCK??

Duration: 10 Minutes

1. Introduction
   • Welcome and brief overview: DeepSeek's impact on business and law.
   • Key points: operational changes, legal implications, and ownership concerns.
2. What is DeepSeek?
   • Introduction to DeepSeek: What it is and how it compares to other AI models.
   • Main Features: deep reasoning, complex data analysis, proactive decision-making.
3. DeepSeek’s Impact on Business
   • Operational Efficiency: Automation of complex workflows and strategic insights.
   • Risk Management & Compliance: Real-time monitoring and predictive analytics.
   • Competitive Advantage: How early adopters can gain a business edge.
4. DeepSeek’s Impact on the Legal Industry
   • Legal Research & Analysis: Faster, more accurate legal research.
   • Contract Review & Drafting: Streamlined review processes and risk detection.
   • Ethical & Regulatory Considerations: Data privacy, algorithmic accountability.
5. Ownership Concerns: The China Connection
   • Addressing DeepSeek's Chinese ownership and data privacy concerns.
   • Comparing with recent issues like TikTok’s data controversies.
   • Potential deterrents for businesses: data storage, access, and security risks.
6. Final Thoughts & Call to Action
   • Recap key takeaways: DeepSeek’s potential and the importance of responsible adoption.
   • Feedback: “How do you see DeepSeek impacting your industry?”
   • Call to action: Subscribe, share thoughts, and stay tuned for future episodes.

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Ever wonder how AI can actually help lawyers do their jobs better? Get ready to dive into the future of legal tech with Alan Tuback, a serial entrepreneur who's back for round two with PageLightPrime, a company set to revolutionize the way law firms operate.

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Forget generic AI features! Discover how PageLightPrime is pioneering "Purposeful AI" designed to seamlessly enhance lawyer workflows by automating those tedious tasks everyone hates. Think automatically generating tasks from emails and supercharged legal research.

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Alan touches on one of the complaints we hear from Law Firms Time and again. They are tired of juggling a dozen different legal tech products. Alan shares how PageLightPrime offers a truly all-in-one solution that lives within Office 365, so you can say goodbye to integration headaches and hello to smooth sailing.

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But it’s not just about the tech. Hear how Alan’s infectious entrepreneurial spirit and dedication to customer delight are shaping a company culture that's as fun as it is effective.

Tune in to this episode of the "Don't Suck at AI" podcast and get ready to rethink what’s possible in the world of legal technology!

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John provides Intro on Humira and shares her Background: 00:37 – 02:11

Humira gives some additional info on her background and shares with us a bit about her AMAZING journey! - 02:12 – 03:04

Don't SUCK Fun Fact about Humira– 03:05 – 07:40 (Hint: She’s an AMAZING HUMANITARION!)

Humira shares with us her vision for DigiCounsel and how she intends to provide a unique brand of content leveraging a conversational style of learning from some of the most amazing Legal & Business minds in industry today. 07:41 - 12:22

Humira dives into her obsession with Legal Technology and discusses what it takes to build a platform as comprehensive as DigiCounsel and how important it is to the law community. - 12:23 – 17:07

Humira talks about her strategy for leveraging her networking skills to bring together such an amazing roster of talent to build all the content required to develop the DigiCounsel suite of content. - 17:08 - 25:06

Humira wraps up by providing a look at how she sees DigiCounsel disrupting the the Legal industry her plans for how it scales. (some absolute gems in this section!) - 25:07 – 30:05

John Reviews some of the things that ABSOLUTELY DIDN’T SUCK today!! 30:06 – 31:13

31:14 Humira’s Contact Info:

LinkedIn – Humira Noorestani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/humira-noorestani/

DigiCounsel Website: www.DigiCounsel.co

Conclusion: 32:09

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John provides Intro on Lisa and shares her Background: 00:37 – 01:42

Lisa gives some additional info on her background and shares with us a bit about her journey and focus - 01:43 – 02:15

Don't SUCK Fun Fact about Lisa – 02:16 – 05:36 (Hint: She’s a Pop Star Turned Lawyer!)

Lisa shares with us the background on her article from Lawyers Weekly and where her deep love of technology comes from. 02:17 - 08:02

Lisa dives into the origins of the term “Split Chain” and talks about why it better applies to Legal technologies than just the Blockchain tech as it takes into consideration the natural language context of the law - 08:03 – 11:21

Lisa talks about “Split Chain” functionality and the benefits of this hybrid model - 11:22 - 14:30

Lisa shares a technology that Landers & Rogers have developed an assessment and risk ranking application and how it will be leveraged along with the “Split Chain” - 14:31 - 17:46

Lisa wraps up by providing a look into the future and gazing into that Legal Tech crystal ball and shares with us what she sees for the industry on the horizon (some absolutely FANTASTIC nuggets here!) - 17:47 – 22:55

John Reviews some of the things that ABSOLUTELY DIDN’T SUCK today!! 22:56 – 24:10

24:11 Lisa’s Contact Info:

LinkedIn – Lisa Fitzgerald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisamfitzgerald/

Landers & Rogers: https://landers.com.au/

Conclusion: 24:42

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Join us as Nonopa, one of the most influential voices in Legal Tech today when it comes to leveraging successful technologies and methodologies from outside the Legal domain discusses why Legal Tech needs to follow their lead!

John provides Intro on Nonopa and shares her Background: 00:37 – 02:15

Nonopa gives some additional info on her background: 02:16 – 03:06

Don't SUCK Fun Fact – Nonopa is a certified No-Code developer and as such has actually built her very own BOT ! It’s really quite cool as it is an automated SAFE agreement (Simple Agreement for Future Equity) which is a quite a popular agreement for startups looking for an IPO in the future.: 03:08 – 05:39

Nonopa talks about what inspired her to write the article in Legal Business World Magazine regarding technologies that the Legal Domain could take some lessons from: 05:40 - 07:04

Nonopa discusses why in the article she chose to focus primarily on 4 domains, Pharmaceuticals, Technology, FinTech and Marketing.: 07:05 – 09:15

Nonopa shares how Legal Tech is becoming saturated with document management solutions and how everyone is attempting to sell them to the same prospects….and that a better model might be one that FinTech is deploying. : 09:16 - 12:01

Nonopa talks about all the learning that can come from the Marketing domain as other industries are really taking advantage of AI and Big Data to hone in on the sector of firms they are targeting but also the custom tailored messaging that technology can now provide. Lawyers need to be on social media platforms Nonopa says!: 12:02 – 15:34

Nonopa shares her strategy on aligning the right technology for a firms needs: 15:35 – 17:16

Nonopa shares her views on where the industry is heading in the future: 17:17 – 18:50

John Reviews some of the things that ABSOLUTELY DIDN’T SUCK today!! :18:51

20:05 Nonopa’s Contact Info:

LinkedIn – Nonopa Vanda https://www.linkedin.com/in/nvanda/

Email: nonopa28@gmail.com

Twitter: NonopaVanda

Conclusion: 20:40

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