Disrupting Systems with Courage & Care | Dr. Phil Echols on Leadership & Legacy
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Disrupting Systems with Courage & Care | Dr. Phil Echols on Leadership & Legacy
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What does it mean to lead with courage and care in education, healthcare, and life?
Craig Aarons-Martin talks with Dr. Phil Echols—Organizational Development & Diversity Specialist at WakeMed, former counselor and educator, and lifelong storyteller.
They discuss:
Zip codes, predictability, and disrupting inequities
Lessons from a teacher mom & pastor dad
Courage as both loud action and quiet strength
Storytelling, legacy, and leadership rooted in love
🎧 Podcast: https://BraveVoicesPod.com
🔗 Connect with Phil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philechols | https://www.instagram.com/philechols | https://philechols.com
Chapters (to refine with timestamps):
00:00 Intro
05:00 Roots in family + Southern upbringing
10:00 Journey: teacher → counselor → leadership
20:00 Zip codes & healthcare inequities
30:00 Courage as quiet + loud
37:00 Storytelling + social media
42:00 Legacy: kindness, love, joy
50:00 Brave or Nah game (UNC, barbecue, Kung Fu Panda, The Wiz)
55:00 Closing & legacy
Tags: leadership, healthcare equity, organizational development, DEI, storytelling, school counseling, Brave Voices in Education