In this episode, we take a deep dive into the intense reactions surrounding Thomas J. Price's 12-foot bronze statue of a black woman displayed in Times Square. While the art challenges traditional ideas of representation and aims to disrupt the "triumphant figure" concept by being placed at ground level, the conversation quickly devolved from discussing its purpose or placement to harsh personal attacks on the statue's appearance.

Words like "disgusting," "mammish," and "monstrous" were used, along with body shaming terms such as "ugly," "fat," and "sloppy". This intense negative judgment based purely on perceived size is identified as textbook fat phobia and connected to deeply ingrained unrealistic beauty standards.

The discussion argues that much of this criticism sprints into the category of self-hate, suggesting that attacking an image resembling many real people implies that looking that way is inherently bad or unacceptable. The episode touches on the misuse of the "black women are not a monolith" argument to dismiss the statue and highlights how historical art often depicted realistic, non-"perfect" bodies. It also counters the idea that looking a certain way prevents racism.

Ultimately, the episode suggests that the firestorm caused by this "regular, recognizable" statue points to deep-seated issues within ourselves. The takeaway emphasizes the need for internal work, cultivating self-love, and accepting all kinds of bodies instead of projecting hate outwards. The controversy became an uncomfortable mirror showing us issues of self-hate, fat phobia, and unrealistic beauty standards still present, even within communities being represented.

In this episode, we take a deep dive into the intense reactions surrounding Thomas J. Price's 12-foot bronze statue of a black woman displayed in Times Square. While the art challenges traditional ideas of representation and aims to disrupt the "triumphant figure" concept by being placed at ground level, the conversation quickly devolved from discussing its purpose or placement to harsh personal attacks on the statue's appearance.

Words like "disgusting," "mammyish," and "monstrous" were used, along with body shaming terms such as "ugly," "fat," and "sloppy". This intense negative judgment based purely on perceived size is identified as textbook fat phobia and connected to deeply ingrained unrealistic beauty standards.

The discussion argues that much of this criticism sprints into the category of self-hate, suggesting that attacking an image resembling many real people implies that looking that way is inherently bad or unacceptable. The episode touches on the misuse of the "black women are not a monolith" argument to dismiss the statue and highlights how historical art often depicted realistic, non-"perfect" bodies. It also counters the idea that looking a certain way prevents racism.

Ultimately, the episode suggests that the firestorm caused by this "regular, recognizable" statue points to deep-seated issues within ourselves. The takeaway emphasizes the need for internal work, cultivating self-love, and accepting all kinds of bodies instead of projecting hate outwards. The controversy became an uncomfortable mirror showing us issues of self-hate, fat phobia, and unrealistic beauty standards still present, even within communities being represented.

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