This episode feels like a real permission slip to stop chasing the version of success that looks good and start listening to what’s actually true inside of you. Dr. Julius Thomas shares how becoming the highest-paid tight end in the NFL didn’t bring peace: “the year of my life that I made the most money was also the year that I was suffering the most”, and how that forced him to face how “cold” and emotionally disconnected he’d become. You’ll hear what it really takes to pivot without turning it into a “brand update”.

Soul Work: Write down the gift “no one else can see,” then choose bravery and show it.

Connect with Julius Thomas:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julius_thomas/?hl=en

Learn More: https://optimalperformancesystem.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-julius-thomas

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

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What does it take to truly understand one another? In this episode, Devi Brown sits down with facilitator Vince Chafin for a thoughtful conversation on men's healing, women's healing, and the relationship patterns that shape how we love. Together, they explore emotional safety, accountability, and how greater curiosity can help us move beyond assumptions and toward deeper connection.

Books Mentioned: Your Brain On Love, Where The Wild Things Are

Connect with Vince Chafin:

Website: https://www.vincematoska.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vincematoska

Book A Call: https://www.vincematoska.com/bookacall

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown

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Devi sits down with Krista Williams (Almost 30) for a real conversation about what it takes to come back home to yourself, especially through your body, your boundaries, and your relationships. Krista shares how book launch burnout left her feeling disconnected from something she’s proud of, and how she learned to stop scanning for who didn’t show up and instead focus on who did. She opens up about growing up with intense pressure to be thin, bingeing as a way to numb pain, and how healing began when she shifted from fixing herself to “more deeply understanding myself rather than fix myself.” She offers a simple path: "allow and accept and embrace,” and reframes the body as a spiritual instrument.

Connect with Krista Williams:

Website: https://itskrista.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itskrista/

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown

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This episode is the kind of conversation that makes you exhale. Jamilah Lemieux joins the show to talk about her book, Black Single Mother - the title alone has had the internet buzzing around the topic. Lemieux breaks down how single motherhood is a spectrum, not a stereotype, and how the current wave of public contempt is often about control, to place labels and struggle upon.

If you’re dating as a single mom, her advice is practical and protective: be intentional, don’t rush introductions, and “listen to what they say. Believe what they say.” They also name how respectability politics and patriarchy shape shame in Black families, and why mothers deserve full lives: “Don’t write yourself out of the agenda… Include yourself.”

Connect with Jamilah Lemieux:

Website: https://www.jamilahlemieux.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamilahlemieux/

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown

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Devi sits down with designer Tiffany Howell (Night Palm Studio) to talk about why your home isn’t just décor—it’s emotional support. Tiffany’s main point is simple and powerful: “Beauty is medicine,” and your space can help “reset your nervous system” when life feels hard. She shares how she helps clients find their aesthetic by asking sensory questions: favorite smells, textures, colors you dislike...because it’s “them getting to know themselves again,” and she treats each home like “its own living creature” that evolves with you. This is an opportunity to take away practical steps even without a full redesign: choose colors that make you feel safe, make daily rituals easier, and keep “three things…that bring you joy,” like a candle, a book, or a light you love turning on.

Connect with Tiffany Howell:

Website: https://www.nightpalm.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nightpalm

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown

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Devi reminds us that a real wellness practice isn’t about looking impressive or “creating an ideal version of yourself,” it’s about “building a relationship with yourself that you can return to consistently….It’s not difficult, it’s effortful,” and “wanting healing without devotion… is not possible.”

You’ll come away with permission to stop performing your self-care, to trust small moments of real-life integration (one breath before responding counts), and to build a flexible practice across mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual needs.

The soul work is simple: ask, “What do I need right now?” then write down what comes up without judgment.

Connect with Devi:

Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown

Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book

Living in Wisdom Retreat: https://www.eomega.org/workshops/living-wisdom

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…

Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/

Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown

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