On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my friend Dana, a fellow punk rock radio DJ, trans rights advocate, and all-around great hang. Here’s some of what we talk about:

First question: What was the band, song or album that turned you into a punk rock fan?

• our early music tastes and migrating from pop into other genres
• old war stories from college radio including the origin of Jonny X
• not being a morning person and dealing with sleep deprivation
• how long we’ve wanted to meet each other and then a lot of mutual admiration society energy
• how apparently the bassist from Murder by Death bartends at a bar near my house (!)
• her process of coming out, the pandemic, Laura Jane Grace and her path back into radio
• we talk about the current cultural spotlight on transgendered people, grooming, and being a “fully customized human being”
• which bands we’ve been keeping our eye on and her station’s Indiefest coming up
• Dana’s extreme extroversion and the cocktail that’s named after her
• how weird having notoriety in your community is
• how finding the highest expression of yourself leads to greater success
• what she would like to see out of society to make it better

Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.

Logo by Nebulus Visions.

Produced by Deft Communications.

Engage with the show on Facebook, Instagram and Bluesky.

Recorded at my house.

Pictured in the photo from left: Dana, my daughter, my pal Jason, some photobomber, me, Bret & Justin from the Frickashinas