In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Johnathan Grzybowski about leveraging your organizational talent to win in the future of work.

Johnathan Grzybowski is the co-founder of Penji, a creative subscription service that empowers businesses, agencies, and teams with the simplest way to access creative talent. He’s also a storyteller and host of Dear Dads and Free Ideas, where he shares insights on entrepreneurship, leadership, and family life.

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In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Ashlie Marshall about the importance of empathetic leadership in the modern world of work.

Ashlie Marshall is a results-driven Chief Strategy Officer at Tier Level who transforms digital marketing challenges into growth opportunities. Since joining the company in 2018, she rapidly advanced from Account Manager to CSO through her exceptional ability to build client relationships and deliver measurable business outcomes. In her current role, Ashlie collaborates with business owners to develop customized digital marketing strategies that align with their organizational culture while driving revenue growth. She simultaneously leads Tier Level's strategic initiatives, establishing infrastructure that positions the company as an industry leader. Ashlie's professional journey reflects her determination to overcome obstacles and help others succeed. Her balanced perspective as a strategist, marketing professional, team leader, wife, and mother informs her holistic approach to business challenges. Through authentic partnerships and forward-thinking leadership, Ashlie continues to create meaningful impact for clients and colleagues alike.

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This episode examines the surge of AI-justified layoffs and argues that managerial short-termism—not technology alone—is driving premature workforce cuts that erode demand and organizational capacity.

Drawing on history and economic theory, it proposes a pragmatic policy path: graduated reductions in the standard workweek, income protections, and employer incentives to preserve employment and translate AI gains into broadly shared prosperity.

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