Intent doesn't lie. People do.

Episode 60. This week: three mothers, three unraveling minds, and the same devastating question — where does love end and delusion begin? To mark 60 episodes, we revisit the cases of Diane Downs, Taylor Parker, and "The Doomsday Mom," three stories that circle the same haunting territory of maternal violence and psychological collapse. Consider this part one — Constance Fisher, a case that started this conversation decades before any of us were born, arrives next Wednesday.

Diane Downs — The Mother Who Shot Her Own Children
Taylor Parker — Maternal Instinct: Fetal Abduction & the Benton County Murder
The Doomsday Mom — When Love Becomes Murder

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On January 24, 2023, Lindsay Clancy — a labor and delivery nurse and mother of three — strangled her children in the basement of their Duxbury, Massachusetts home,then tried to take her own life. Three and a half years later, her murder trial ended not in a conviction, not in an acquittal, but in a mistrial: eleven jurors on one side, a single holdout on the other, and a country still arguing over whether she's a victim or a killer.

This week on Deadly Intent, we go inside the case that split the nation. What is postpartum psychosis, and was Lindsay inside it that night — or was she calculating? We break down the "voice" she says commanded her, the prosecution'sconcealment argument, the Massachusetts insanity standard almost every headline got wrong, and why twelve people couldn't agree. Because on this show, intent doesn't lie. People do.

⚠️ Content warning: This episode discusses the deaths of children, mental illness, and suicide. If you're struggling, call or text 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline). For postpartum support, Postpartum Support International: 1-800-944-4773. You're not alone.

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In the ruins of post-war Germany, young men vanished from a Hanover train station for six years — and the man taking them wasn't hiding. He was a police informant, a familiar face, trusted by the very people meant to stop him. Fritz Haarmanncalled it a frenzy he couldn't control. But you don't build a life around a compulsion by accident. This week, we sit inside the hardest question there is: when a killer says he never meant it, do we believe him? For the boys the world had already decided not to look for, intent doesn't lie. People do.

Content note: this episode covers crimes against young men and boys, handled without graphic detail. Listener discretion advised.

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In February 2025, in a quiet corner of west Georgia, a married couple was shot to death in their bed as they slept. There was no forced entry, and the killer took the weapon with them. For five months the case looked like an unsolved tragedy —and the grieving teenage daughter who called 911 became one of its most public mourners, posting tribute after tribute online and begging the internet to care. Then the sheriff’s office named her as the person accused of pulling thetrigger.

This week on Deadly Intent, we sit with a case that is still unfolding — and one that could not be more suited to this show, because its entire weight rests on a single unanswered question: what was really happening inside the mind of the girl in those videos? Was that grief, or was it performance? We trace the case in order — from the family behind the door, through the morning everything shattered,into five strange months of public mourning, and on to an arrest, an indictment, and a trial that keeps slipping out of reach.

Along the way we hold the hardest tension in true crime: that Sarah Grace Patrick has pleaded not guilty and has never been tried, and that everything the state alleges still has to be proven. We look at what the prosecution believes it canshow, at what the defense says is missing, and at what it means to judge the adult intent of someone who was sixteen years old. And before we close, we bring the story back to the people at its center — Kristin and James Brock — and to the youngest witness of all.

This is the story of Sarah Grace Patrick, and of how hard it is to read a human heart through a screen.

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It was supposed to be one of the good days. A district track meet in Frisco, Texas. Hundreds of high schoolers. An ordinary spring Wednesday.

Then a thunderstorm rolled in, and everyone scrambled for cover under the pop-up tents. Under one of them — a tent belonging to a school he didn't attend — seventeen-year-old Karmelo Anthony took shelter from the rain. Within about aminute, a dispute over who got to stand under that canopy ended with another seventeen-year-old, Austin Metcalf, bleeding to death in the arms of his twin brother.

There was no whodunit. Anthony admitted from the very first that he used the knife. The question that consumed a courtroom — and a country — for the next fourteenmonths was something far harder: was this a frightened young man defending himself in a moment of chaos? Or was it murder?

In this episode, we leave the national noise at the door and look at what the jury actually heard — the words spoken before anyone touched anyone, the order of events that may have decided everything, and the razor-thin legal line between fear and intent. Then we turn and examine the noise itself, because the way this case got swallowed by the internet is its own kind of psychology worth understanding.

Same knife. Same wound. Same dead boy. And the entire spectrum from innocent to murderer turning on a state of mind no camera ever recorded.

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In May 1924, fourteen-year-old Bobby Franks got into a car with someone he knew and trusted. Minutes later he was dead — not for money, not out of hatred, but as anexperiment. Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb had every advantage the world could offer: brilliant minds, immense wealth, futures wide open. And they spent nearly a year planning the murder of a child to prove a single idea they heldabout themselves — that they were exceptional enough to stand above the rules that bind everyone else.

This week on Deadly Intent, we sit with the case that this whole show was built for: the one where ordinary motive nearly disappears. We trace the "perfect crime" from its cold conception through the pair of eyeglasses that unraveled it, into a courtroom where Clarence Darrow made one of the most famous pleas in American legal history — and asked a question we're still wrestling with a hundred yearslater. What kind of intent kills for the idea of it? How much can any of us be blamed for becoming what we were shaped to be? And what happens when two mindstalk each other into a monstrous lie?

We follow the folie à deux at the heart of their bond, the confessions that turned them against each other the instant fear arrived, and the strange, diverging afterlives that followed. And before we close, we bring the story back to theboy at its center — because Bobby Franks was never the footnote. He was the whole moral weight of it.

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At 5:30 on a July morning in Strongsville, Ohio, a silver Camry accelerated down an empty suburban road to nearly 100 miles an hour, held a dead-straight line for three-quarters of a mile, and drove head-on into a brick wall. Two young mendied. The seventeen-year-old girl behind the wheel survived — and what investigators pulled from the car's black box turned a tragedy into a homicide case.

The accelerator was floored. The brake was never touched. And two weeks earlier, Mackenzie Shirilla had allegedly threatened to crash the car with her boyfriendinside it.

This week, we walk the whole length of that road: the silent testimony of the event data recorder, the security footage a judge said she could never un-see, the toxic relationship the state built its motive on, and the medical defense thatcouldn't find its expert. A court called it murder — "the mission was death." But behind the verdict sits a locked room none of us can enter: what a teenage girl truly meant in the last few seconds before impact.

A story where we know almost everything that happened, and still can't be certain why.

Content warning: this episode discusses a fatal crash, intimate partner violence, and suicide. Crisis resources are shared at the end. In the US, the National Domestic Violence Hotline is 1-800-799-7233, and the Suicide & CrisisLifeline is 988.

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Rex Heuermann didn't just kill eight women. He wrote down how to do it — and then revised the document between murders.

For seventeen years, the Long Island Serial Killer left women along Ocean Parkway, fifteen minutes from his house in Massapequa Park. For thirteen more yearsafter their bodies were found, Suffolk County didn't catch him — despite a burner phone he bought with his own credit card. In April 2026, Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven murders and admitted to an eighth. In June, he was sentenced to life.

This episode is about the piece of evidence that makes this case unlike almost any other: a deleted Word file recovered from a hard drive in his basement, written in all capitals, containing checklists, a disposal procedure, and a section of lessons learned for next time. On this show we usually have to infer intent. Here, he typed it.

We cover the 911 call from Shannan Gilbert that cracked the case open, the discovery of the Gilgo Four, the taunting phone calls made to a fifteen-year-old girl, the police chief who kept the FBI out of the investigation and went to federalprison, and the eight women whose names deserve to be said: Melissa Barthelemy, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello, Jessica Taylor, Valerie Mack, Sandra Costilla, and Karen Vergata.

Intent doesn't lie. People do.

Content warning: serial murder, strangulation, sexual violence, and discussion of theexploitation of sex workers.

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