"Quiet isn't always peace, and the norms and notions of what is just isn't always justice"

-Amanda Gorman, National Youth Poet Laureate

Audrey and Patrick touch on Trump’s misbegotten attempts to resolve the Russia/Ukraine war and make broader assessment of U.S. imperialism. Classrooms away from each other, we experienced 9/11 on TV in the same high school, separately embarking on journeys towards the anti-war, pro-human perspective we share today.

Considering Taylor Swift’s appearance on the New Heights podcast, we ask what powerful individuals should do with their platforms and influence in our time of omnipresent injustice and systemic collapse. How defensible is silence (an “apolitical” stance) when celebrity can move the needle on important issues, saving lives?

Before we wrap up we talk gun control in the context of mental health and deployment of righteous violence against oppressive systems.

Please consider donating to humanitarian aid for Ukraine:

https://novaukraine.org

The Palestinian Children’s Relief Fund (PCRF):

https://www.pcrf.net

Further relief options to the victims of genocide and famine through The Sameer Project:

https://linktr.ee/thesameerproject

Every bit helps.

Introductory quote by Muhammad Ali

Main show theme is “Strangers” by Midnight Prisms

Music and lyrics by Alicia Beck

Music and production by Max Foreman

Mastering by Little Castle Sound

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Logo art by Patrick Mitchell and Angelina Harvey (@graffitifucks on Instagram)

• (00:00:00) - Trump's Attempt to Make Peace With Putin
• (00:06:21) - "I Was Pro-War When I Was Younger"
• (00:13:01) - The Problem With Police Training
• (00:17:02) - Do You Like Taylor Swift?
• (00:18:09) - I Got Into A Political Argument With Suanne
• (00:25:36) - Taylor Swift on Kanye's Comments About Politics
• (00:31:58) - Marathon Gun Owners: The Second Amendment
• (00:38:47) - Quakers on the Right: Violence