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In this episode of Law at the End of the World we are joined by natural resources and climate law scholar Julia Dehm. Julia discusses the challenges of balancing theoretical research work with real-world research impact, the importance of mainstreaming climate change in legal education, and the juggle of balancing a career with family responsibilities. As well as reflecting on Julia's talk, Cristy and Liz discuss recent developments in environmental law, and reflect on their future research directions and the need for collaboration within the legal community.

Show notes:

Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor, ‘The rise of end times fascism’ (The Guardian, 13 April 2025) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

Association Prof Julia Dehm - https://scholars.latrobe.edu.au/jdehm

Climate Conscious Lawyers - https://climateconsciouslawyers.com/

Petra Stock, ‘Coalition scores just 1/100 points for environment and climate policies from conservation organisation’ (The Guardian, 14 April 2025) - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/apr/15/coalition-scores-just-1100-points-for-environment-and-climate-policies-from-conservation-organisation

OHCHR Calls for Inputs - https://www.ohchr.org/en/calls-for-input-listing?deadline_status[state]=all&page=0

Alessandro Pelizzon, Ecological Jurisprudence: The Law of Nature and the Nature of Law (Springer, 2025) - https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-96-0173-8

• Book Launch - https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/2XN4owYRQ9asohvPlUIqWw#/registration

Cristy Clark, Legal Geographies of Water: The Spaces, Places and Narratives of Human-Water Relations (Routledge, 2026) - https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781003273219/legal-geographies-water-cristy-clark

University of Leeds, Riverkin: remaking vital relations with rivers - https://water.leeds.ac.uk/news/riverkin-remaking-vital-relations-with-rivers/

Round table exploration of the issues surrounding climate change and class discrimination law - https://www.law.berkeley.edu/research/berkeley-center-on-comparative-equality-anti-discrimination-law/our-working-groups/climate-equality/

Our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes - is located at https://lawattheendoftheworld.buzzsprout.com/

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• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-macpherson-90929117/ & https://www.linkedin.com/in/cristyclark/
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• Our websites - https://elizabethmacpherson.co.nz/ & https://cristyclark.wordpress.com/