What if sustainability’s future was driven by passion, shaped with youth, and told through real stories?

In this episode, I speak with Josh Dorfman. Josh is a climate entrepreneur, author, and media voice at the intersection of sustainability, innovation, and culture. He is the co-founder, CEO, and host of Supercool, the climate-tech podcast and media brand spotlighting the bold founders, investors, and policymakers designing a low-carbon future. His interviews reveal the business models, technologies, and cultural shifts redefining prosperity in an age of ecological disruption. A serial entrepreneur, Josh launched Plantd, a carbon-negative building-materials company recognized by Fast Company in 2024 as one of the world’s most innovative ventures. Before that, he created Vine.com, Amazon’s first natural and organic e-commerce store, and Vivavi, an award-winning sustainable furniture company honored on Inc.’s “Green 50” for leading eco-design. Josh first captured attention as The Lazy Environmentalist, a blog that grew into a SiriusXM radio show, a Sundance Channel TV series, and two books blending wit with pragmatic eco-living. His work consistently challenges the status quo, reframing climate response as an opportunity for creativity, commerce, and cultural transformation. We discuss:

🥥 Influencing through interests and passions, appealing to the heart, not just cognitive spaces (with all the data we already know);

🥥 How industry might collaborate with young people on projects relating to sustainability, to develop careers;

🥥 The importance of telling great stories of sustainability, with successes and failures, which can influence and inspire others and not just virtue signal.

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And check out Supercool: https://getsuper.cool/

How might we consider collapse as a a transformative process that brings us together through loss and renewal?

In this episode, I speak with Maya Frost. Maya is a creative adaptation strategist, grief worker, and trauma‑informed facilitator who specializes in what she calls “creative adaptation": helping collapse‑aware individuals disrupt their despair and cultivate joy even as systems erode. As the founder of Collapse Forward and the Doom to Bloom™ process, she works with clients across more than 20 countries to transform “despairalysis” into grounded gratitude, rewilded imagination, and enlivened engagement. Maya's roots lie in alternative education and creativity‑based healing: she began by teaching mindfulness and creative play to thousands online. She’s also the author of The New Global Student, a playful guide to global education alternatives. In recent years, she has gained recognition for her “post‑doom optimism”—a refusal to flatten complexity into despair and instead engage collapse with creative resistance and realistic hope. We discuss:

🥥 How glossing over the truth around collapse risks giving a false sense of reality that eventually leads to greater despair;

🥥 The importance of having hard conversations, out in the open, so that we might respond, not in spite of, but thanks to the struggle;

🥥 How there is much we. can do right now to adapt, refusing paralysis even faced against tremendous odds.

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How do you lead with courage and love for every child when the culture around you is demanding you do the opposite?

Jennifer D. Klein is an educator, author, and global learning advocate with over 30 years in student-centered, project-based education. A product of the very pedagogies she champions, Jennifer has taught and led in diverse contexts—from all-girls education in the U.S. to heading an innovative school in Colombia. She has worked with educators in over 20 countries, helping them design equitable, inquiry-driven learning that amplifies student voice, embraces cultural inclusion, and transforms school culture.

The author of The Global Education Guidebook, The Landscape Model of Learning, and the forthcoming Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership, Jennifer blends classroom experience, leadership insight, and a passion for equity to inspire meaningful change. She partners with schools to tackle equity, engage in brave conversations, and empower young people as agents of change in their communities and beyond. Based in Denver, she continues to connect educators worldwide through workshops, coaching, and keynote talks.

We discuss:

🥥 Having a North Star and knowing what we are willing to to stand up for, in the face of risk;

🥥 How no one can give you the gift of liberation, we have to strive for it (Freire). This is true in leadership of all sorts;

🥥 Students as protagonists of their own stories and these of others.

You can purchase Jennifer's book here: https://www.principledlearning.org/taming-the-turbulence-in-educational-leadership.

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