As the routesetting field continues to become more professionalized, so do our standards and expectations. On this episode of The Impact Driver Podcast, host Holly Chen talks with Colorado-based routesetter Daniel Cornella about the state of routesetting education and the elements of good competition sport routes.

Dan first discovered climbing thanks to his high school biology teacher, took a detour to serve in the Marines in California, and eventually found his way back to the Colorado climbing scene. In 2013, he was introduced to routesetting at Life Time Fitness by Matt Lloyd. If you’ve climbed in a Colorado gym in the last decade—from the iconic 90s-era gym Rock’n & Jam’n (now The Spot Thornton) to various Movement locations—chances are you’ve pulled on something set by Dan, who is now the Assistant Director of Routesetting at Movement’s Centennial facility.

Dan is also a USAC Level 4 Setter and has set for Youth Nationals, National Cups and Vail Citizens competitions. He has also chiefed half a dozen youth championship events. Outside of climbing, Dan works in high rigging for concerts at major Colorado venues, such as Ball Arena. Above all else, he is a proud husband and father.

• A catch-22 of routesetting
• How gyms can work internally to educate setters through a standardized pipeline
• Balancing the creative and technical aspects when educating setters
• Preparing routesetters for their first competition
• Speed is style
• The elements of a good skeleton for a rope route
• Tips and tricks on building pump, from recreational to Olympian-level routes, and why every limb should have a job
• Systematic forerunning and how to approach skeletons versus near-comp-ready routes

• Find Dan Cornella on Instagram
• Movement x B-Pump Collaboration Brings Japanese Routesetting and Training to Colorado
• Rumble in the Rockies

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The Impact Driver Podcast is a production of the Climbing Business Journal. Today’s episode is sponsored by Essential Climbing and Strati. It was edited and produced by Holly Yu Tung Chen, Megan Cheek, Scott Rennak and the team at CBJ. Our theme music is by Devin Dabney.

This episode of the Climbing Business Journal podcast is a little historical. There is so much that is often recounted and celebrated related to the heritage and lineage of outdoor climbing, and there is an equally fascinating counterpart to that history with the history of indoor climbing. The wonderful industry that we have now with climbing gyms includes components that are largely unique to the indoor scene. Things like routesetting and artificial holds, coaches, comps…These elements didn't just appear suddenly in gyms; they had to germinate and develop over a long period of time. And that's not news to anyone who is listening to this podcast. It is worth pointing out that, more often than not, there was a person or a small group of people who were at the vanguard of those ideas and various developments.

That background leads to today's guest, Mike Pont. Mike was one of the people leading the charge in the earliest days of indoor climbing, and particularly the earliest days of routesetting. He was among the first group of people in the United States who actually thought of themselves as routesetters in the late 1980s and early 1990s, when climbing gyms were few and far between. And Mike Pont, along with a few other people, helped make routesetting a concept and helped put it into practice. Mike was also involved in organizing some of the earliest large-scale climbing competitions in the U.S. and was involved in the climbing portion of the ESPN X Games. He basically had a front row seat for the generational turnover in sport climbing and in the climbing industry that occurred in the 90s. Mike and host John Burgman get into all those instrumental beginnings for our industry on today’s show.

• Early Climbing Experiences
• The Birth of Routesetting
• Competition Development
• American League of Forerunners
• ESPN X Games
• Competition Routesetting
• The New Generation of Climbers
• Coming Full Circle

• @mikepont1

Thank you EP Climbing and Rock Gym Pro for your support! And thank you Devin Dabney for your music!

On this episode of The Impact Driver Podcast, host Holly Chen sits down with Nickolas Gagliardi to get us thinking about USAC events as routesetters gear up for the upcoming youth competition season.

Nick started setting in 2015 in St. Paul, Minnesota. While that beginning was only ten years ago, Nick experienced the industry when many setters were still getting paid by the route and boulder, specifically: $7 a boulder, $11 a top-rope route, $15 a lead route and $26 for setting the roof. From there, Nick moved to Colorado where he set at the Earth Treks gyms—now Movement—before he finally landed in Portland, Oregon. Now, Nick is a USAC Level 3 routesetter and the Director of Setting at Portland Rock Gym. When he’s not setting, Nick is often climbing outdoors, playing video games, and trying to get better at Go.

• The history of Portland Rock Gym’s Beaverton location, designed with setters and competitions in mind
• Key elements of a competition-ready gym
• Communicating with members about hosting USAC competitions
• Preparing to host Youth Nationals
• Lessons learned from hosting Youth Nationals—and what could be done differently next time
• Managing relationships between in-house and guest setters
• Setting novice routesetters up for success in their first competition
• Professional development opportunities for experienced competition setters

• Find Nick Gagliardi on Instagram
• Portland Rock Gym
• 2025 Youth National Championships at the Portland Rock Gym, Beaverton
• USA Climbing Routesetters
• USAC Boulder QE Setting Guidelines and Top Rope/Lead Guidelines
• USAC Rulebook
• You’re Stronger if You’re Honest: Behind the Wrench With Abby Wilson
• More: other episodes of The Impact Driver Podcast that look at competition team dynamics:
  • Setting the Tone: What Makes a Space Feel Good? – CBJ Podcast with Jesse Safford
  • No One Sets Alone: Collective Authorship – CBJ Podcast with Ruth Jang
  • “You Can Strip My Boulder.” – CBJ Podcast with Blake Green

If you’d like to nominate someone as a next guest, have a topic you want to see us tackle or have questions, we’d love for you to reach out.

The Impact Driver podcast is a production of the Climbing Business Journal. Today’s episode is sponsored by Kilter and Bold Climbing. It was edited and produced by Holly Yu Tung Chen, Megan Cheek, Scott Rennak, and the team at CBJ. Our theme music is by Devin Dabney.